tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post1458237363171644967..comments2024-03-05T22:14:08.004+05:30Comments on EX-SERVICEMEN WELFARE: GaviniVNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10714898741094006636noreply@blogger.comBlogger40125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-77025372070487373792016-10-07T15:40:49.104+05:302016-10-07T15:40:49.104+05:30Total confuson my rank aaw2 indian navy what about...Total confuson my rank aaw2 indian navy what about meUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15576245143405913621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-24758096920470622572016-07-13T14:49:41.321+05:302016-07-13T14:49:41.321+05:30Dear Sirs,
I hope Organisation is doing well to ...Dear Sirs,<br /><br /><br />I hope Organisation is doing well to defend the rights of PBOR in getting their entitled dues. However, I take this opportunity to inform you that GOI, MOD vide letter No. 17 4/2008/D Pen/Policy dated 11.11.2008, has revised pension of Pre 2006 Armed Forces Pensions/Family Pensioners under 6th Pay Commission and the same was ordered by PCDA, Allahabad vide Circular No 397. This pension was further improved vide GOI, MOD letter No. PC-10 1/2009-D Pen/Pol dated 08.03.2010 and No. 1 13/2012/D Pen/Policy dated 17.01.2013 effective with effect from 01.07.2009 and 24.09.2014 respectively.<br /><br />Based on judicial pronouncements, Govt. of India, Ministry of Personnel, PG and Pensions, Department of pension and Pensioners Welfare vide OM No. 38/37/08-P and PW A dated 30th Jul 2015 decided that the pension/family pension of all pre-2006 pensioners/family pensioners may be revised in accordance with their OM No. 38/37/08-P and PW A dated 28.01.2013 with effect from 01.01.2006 instead of 24.09.2012. Accordingly, GOI, MOD vide letter No. 1 04/2015 II-D Pen/Pol dated 03.09.2015, has prepared separate Annexure A for Army, Annexure B for Air Force and Annexure C for Navy, authorising disbursing authority to step up pension/family pension wef 01.01.2006 instead of allowing of pension tables as given in GOI, MOD letter dated 17 Jan 2013.This seems to be totally incorrect and cheating to PBOR. Pension shown in Annexure to GOI, MOD letter dated 3rd Sep 2015 is much less than what was given in GOI, MOD letter dated 11 Nov 2008 i.e. initial fixation of pension of PBOR under 6th Pay Commission.<br /><br />For example, in my case, my pension was fixed as Rs. 8937/- initially wef 1.1.2006 and then improved to Rs. 10157/- wef 01.09.2009, whereas this annexure shows my pension as 8010/- less Rs. 927/-. So, here is no arrear for me.<br /> <br /><br />In case of officers, order issued vide GOI, MOD letter No. 1 04/2015 I-D Pen/Pol dated 3rd Sep 2015, para 4 states that revised tables indicating minimum guaranteed pension/ordinary family pension for Indian Commissioned Officers which is annexed with GOI, MOD letter No. 1 11/2012-D Pen/Policy dated 17.01.2013 shall be effective with effect 01.01.2006 instead of 24.09.2012.<br /> <br /><br />It is not understood why GOI, MOD has not allowed PBOR to draw their pension as per tables given in MOD letter dated 17.01.2013 wef 01.01.2006, whereas, separate Annexure has been prepared for PBOR to draw their pension wef 01.01.2006 which is much less than the pension initially granted to them as on 01.01.2006 under 6th CPC setting aside the decision of Honourable Supreme Court. Why PBOR are not given the pension which was fixed as on 01 Jul 2009 and 24 Sep 2012 respectively to enable them to have arrears wef 01.1.2006.<br /><br /><br />To deliver natural justice to PBOR, May I request you to kindly look into this and take up this issue with GOI, MOD to remove this anomaly.<br /><br /><br />I shall be remained grateful to you.<br /><br /><br />Yours faithfully,<br /><br /><br /><br />Sub Bir Singh Retired<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04884260311720583390noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-19006016260854221382016-06-02T04:41:21.477+05:302016-06-02T04:41:21.477+05:30Sir, why is there no order issued yet for paying p...Sir, why is there no order issued yet for paying pension and Arrears to the ex-servicemen w e f 1.1.2006 after delinking 33 years QS for full (50% ) pension as on date?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-63391806205377014692016-05-19T22:38:24.138+05:302016-05-19T22:38:24.138+05:30My rank aaw2 indian navy basic as on 1/1/2006 rs 5...My rank aaw2 indian navy basic as on 1/1/2006 rs 5122 will i get any arrears pl reply on email id raj.rajadhyaksha@gmail.<br />ComUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15576245143405913621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-57053183567937658482016-05-19T14:27:53.520+05:302016-05-19T14:27:53.520+05:30order for the disabled pensioners are published le...order for the disabled pensioners are published let us hope orders of de linking 33 years service for 50% pension will be issued soon<br /><br />Hareesha K ex MCERA II harishkad@hotmail.com Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-85956777829292973822016-05-18T19:59:44.423+05:302016-05-18T19:59:44.423+05:30De-linking QS for33 yrs- order issued for ce...De-linking QS for33 yrs- order issued for central govt civilians and non combatants only.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710006965544973519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-16576636861529620652016-05-18T10:59:56.806+05:302016-05-18T10:59:56.806+05:30Respected Brig. Sir,
My sincere thanks and gratitu...Respected Brig. Sir,<br />My sincere thanks and gratitude for the service you are rendering to the veteran community.<br />What is more heartening is your effort to helping the always neglected lot called "PBOR" I have always felt that the abbreviation is synonymous to the status of untouchables in the society. The less said about these the better; let it rest.<br />As I mentioned at the beginning you have taken the trouble of explaining how the pension arrears to be calculated in respect of Sepoy to JCO.<br />From your blog it is understood that the QS of 33 years is delinked and the retiree is entitled for 50% of MP in PB + GP<br />The example cited is for the service rendered for 20 years. What for those who were transferred to pension establishment after 15 years of service.<br />I retired as JWO(Flt.Sgt) in II group (present Y group) after 15 years of service in the year 1971. I am curious to know if the yard stick for calculating arrears is applicable in my case also.If not what is the formula for calculation in my case. There may not be too many veterans coming under the category of JCO with 15 years service; hence, I cannot look forward to seeing a general calculation criteria for arriving at arrears. In short am I, too, entitled to the benefit of 50% MP in PB.<br />Thanking you <br />with highest regards<br />215360 JWO(Flt.Sgt.) Sukumaran RV (veteran)<br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /> JWO (retd) Sukumaran Nair.R.V.https://www.blogger.com/profile/09258162043553765685noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-27606415810698420212016-05-17T23:48:48.399+05:302016-05-17T23:48:48.399+05:30Mr yadav you people from X group certainly deserve...Mr yadav you people from X group certainly deserve a higher pension that is half of x group pay I.e. rs 700 pm<br />Pbors in parent Y group never cribed when pbors from lowest H group were brought in Y group<br />U just can't undermine the job of any pbor whatever group or trade one worked in<br />U should not forget that all technical trades are recruited with same qualification and imparted same training in Air Force and other two services.It is only the conversion course that places an airman in X group and for X group pay is given.<br />Certain trades like SEW.AFSO.Met Asstt did not any chance for conversion<br />Except X group pay any difference in pay and pension is just unjustifiable<br />In 7 the CPC this anomaly has been corrected and uniform pay scales have been recommended.only X group pay is given separately<br />So be little considerate and logical and avoid mud slinging at a time when whole pbor community is fighting for legitimate OROPAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17774945837466053139noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-73671643758812697942016-05-17T19:19:51.410+05:302016-05-17T19:19:51.410+05:30Sir,I left navy in 1992 as a po y gruop after 15 y...Sir,I left navy in 1992 as a po y gruop after 15 years. In 6th pay commission my basic pay was 3636.As per circlar 430 it is 4840. Circulr 501 it is increased to 5301.After orop my basic pension is 7550. Am I elegible gor this 50% minimum pension.NOTEAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12060244889924546380noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-37828413025902133852016-05-17T17:35:12.179+05:302016-05-17T17:35:12.179+05:30Is there any work going on in PCDA ex servicemen s...Is there any work going on in PCDA ex servicemen service de linking of 33 years, as this is supreme court order to bring pre 2006 ex servicemen with post 2006 ex servicemen <br /><br />Hareesha K Ex MCERA 11 harishkad@hotmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-26769200571805459492016-05-17T16:51:31.420+05:302016-05-17T16:51:31.420+05:30It will be benefited only when Min of PayBand in O...It will be benefited only when Min of PayBand in OROP is greater then any time from Jan 2006 to Jun 2014.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11913434129211778168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-8630598329340262622016-05-17T13:47:42.160+05:302016-05-17T13:47:42.160+05:30Kindly look at OROP table no -7 ,wherein the Basic...Kindly look at OROP table no -7 ,wherein the Basic pension of a Nb/Sub Gp- Y with 20 yrs of QS is Rs 8755/- while for 28 yrs of QS the pension BP is Rs 10742. Now since the QS of 33 yrs has been de-linked,will his basic pension shall be enhanced to 10742/- w.e f July 2014 and arrears paid accordinly ?<br /><br />Ramesh Yadav Ex-JWOAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07424300998309623305noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-89235025962715742802016-05-17T11:24:04.107+05:302016-05-17T11:24:04.107+05:30I was released from IAF on 31-3-1981 on fulfilling...I was released from IAF on 31-3-1981 on fulfilling the initial term of engagement on completion of 15 yrs 4 days of service.<br /><br />I was promoted to the rank Sgt wef 1.1.1981 and did not complete 10 months service to become eligible for pension for Sgt rank and getting pension of CPL.<br /><br />One JWO has challanged this policy in Chennai AFT who has ruled that even one has served for even one dayin the promoted rank is eligible to get pension for the promoted rank.<br /><br />I contacted AFRO Veterans Dte on the matter who has said that the AFT's orders have been challenged in SC. <br /><br />May I know if anybody has got latest information on the matter.<br /><br />I will be thankful for the information.<br /><br />Regards.<br /><br />279439 Sgt Y.R. Singh veteran<br />Mob No. 9793279300Sgt Y.R. Singh veterannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-74844025090454691912016-05-17T11:07:40.013+05:302016-05-17T11:07:40.013+05:30This is applicable for those who discharged on com...This is applicable for those who discharged on completion 20 years or more service read circular No C-149 carefully not below the 20 years service.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14898583897224442814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-67495115213932117132016-05-16T18:52:18.122+05:302016-05-16T18:52:18.122+05:30Kindly clarify me, what will be the basic pension ...Kindly clarify me, what will be the basic pension of same group 20 years Nb/sub and 28 years Nb/sub as per new rule of de-linked from QS 33 yrs.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06710006965544973519noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-1280121019178605452016-05-16T16:19:11.885+05:302016-05-16T16:19:11.885+05:30It is only for Defense Civilian not for PBOR other...It is only for Defense Civilian not for PBOR otherwise when letter is out for Def Civ why not PBOR.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11913434129211778168noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-37300722190144699952016-05-16T15:00:49.607+05:302016-05-16T15:00:49.607+05:30Minimum/maximum fitment table confused because we ...Minimum/maximum fitment table confused because we are pbor and pbor means pbor, if the boss is happy understand all are happy pbor are getting 30% pension and boss are getting 75%.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14898583897224442814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-44777908600004220482016-05-16T14:57:14.855+05:302016-05-16T14:57:14.855+05:30In my opinion group should be conciderd only while...In my opinion group should be conciderd only while in service. Once out from service only rank and service should be considered.No group for veterans.Rajmohan nairhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08840180002250691267noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-69654853096007766862016-05-16T12:40:26.463+05:302016-05-16T12:40:26.463+05:30There is nothing for pbor, as the minimum/maximum ...There is nothing for pbor, as the minimum/maximum fitment table for JCOs/OR has already been given vide circular 547.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14898583897224442814noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-48919329769341948342016-05-16T09:46:22.049+05:302016-05-16T09:46:22.049+05:30For pbor cir 471 should be 50% pension cir not cir...For pbor cir 471 should be 50% pension cir not cir 547 prediction. 555https://www.blogger.com/profile/14048563267726858373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-68480065349370207922016-05-16T03:25:12.359+05:302016-05-16T03:25:12.359+05:30The MOD letter and the PCDA(P) circular in this re...The MOD letter and the PCDA(P) circular in this respect has not come into light. Is there a valid reason for this. This aspect is creating mistrust among the ESM. Can somebody clarify the reason for this delay? Is the OROP order conflicting with this amendment?Manoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04398056746166406979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-2008105350799446862016-05-15T15:42:23.404+05:302016-05-15T15:42:23.404+05:30This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09982868418293074553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-79866601058482629332016-05-15T14:28:34.907+05:302016-05-15T14:28:34.907+05:30Gp X and Y should be applicable for serving soldie...Gp X and Y should be applicable for serving soldiers only for which Soldier contribute during his service. After retirement Soldier is recognised by rank and not by X and Y gp. Exserviceman does not contribute an Gp X and Y. Hence, I suggest gps for exservimen should not be kept functional after retirement and should be known by rank. Thanks.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-21352780127377365212016-05-15T12:11:37.323+05:302016-05-15T12:11:37.323+05:30Respected Mahesh Yadhav Sir, I am extreamly sorry ...Respected Mahesh Yadhav Sir, I am extreamly sorry to mention here that we the veterans community are demanding OROP and not ONE GROUP ONE PENSION.I fully agree that the group and trade and their works and nature of duties are different from one to other when they perform their trade work. Some of our colleagues join the service with the qualification like Non matric,Matric,Plus 2 and Plus two with mths science with civil diploma ,Graduate and even post GRraduate. Some of our colleagues obtain Diploma through service insttution after joining the service. Every body perform their duties as per their trade. There should not be superiority complex between the trade as in the case of Commissiined officers.Let me clarify the following. In indian army there were 8 groups ie A to H prior 1973, it reduced to 5 wef 1.1.1973,further 5 reduced to three as XY Z wef 10.10.1997 again on 1.1.2006 these 3 reduced to 2 as X and Y. A veterans served and retired prior to 1973 belongs to H group is now drawing his pension as applicable to Y group as on date without performing the duties of Y group.In other words a H group veterans is now drawing the pension of Y group. All the Y group trades man are not Un qualified,un skilled, semi skilled or Skilled worker.For supervisory cadre most of the ranks are equalted and they are placed in the common pay band of 9300 to 34800.In my knowledge is correct direct entry diploma holders are placed in the higher grade pay group or higher rank and they get the service benifit for further promotion and ACP up gradation. Other than X Group personnel perform their duty as per their trade after completing technical/non technical specifiedtraining through service institution.This is views. May or may not be accepted by all. With regars. SUB MAJ AND HONY LT AK JAYARAJAN EMAIL ID akjayarajan122@gmail.com.please ignore if i am wrong any where.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00710081404187270525noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-55288263733768891412016-05-13T07:14:13.567+05:302016-05-13T07:14:13.567+05:30You all are educating the MOD and PCDA how to misi...You all are educating the MOD and PCDA how to misinterpret the Court verdict.<br />Srinivasan,MCPO-I (RTD),Indian NavyAnonymousnoreply@blogger.com