tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post3001636306274239557..comments2024-03-05T22:14:08.004+05:30Comments on EX-SERVICEMEN WELFARE: TO THE PRIME MINISTER OF INDIA - MEMORANDUM OF DEMAND OF EX-SERVICEMEN (JCOs/NCOs/Ors)GaviniVNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10714898741094006636noreply@blogger.comBlogger39125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-25343122772116255732017-01-03T19:23:33.719+05:302017-01-03T19:23:33.719+05:30ANOTHER BIG SCAM/EXPLOITATION OF TAX PAYER'S H...ANOTHER BIG SCAM/EXPLOITATION OF TAX PAYER'S HARD EARNED MONEY IS THE TEMPORARY DUTY CLAIM BY OFFICER STAYING IN OFFICER MESS. BY RULE OFFICER SHOULD BE GIVEN FREE ACCOMMODATION AND MESSING WHILE STAYING IN OFFICER MESSES OF ARMED FORCES. BUT IN AIR FORCE, A MESS BILL SHOWS DAILY ROOM CHARGE OF 650 RUPEES/ DAY AND A MESSING CHARGES 350 RUPEES AND A MISCELLANEOUS 400 RUPEES AMOUNTING TO 1400/-RUPEES/DAY. WHICH THEY DEPOSIT IN PAY AND ACCOUNT SECTION AND GET RE-REIMBURSED. AN OFFICER ON TEMPORARY DUTY FOR A MONTH ON COURSE AT AIR FORCE GET A CLAIM OF 45000/ FROM TAX PAYER. MEANS MESS BILL PAID TO OFFICER MESS WHERE OFFICER STAYED GET RS 45000/- FOR NOT SPENDING ANYTHING. THEY ENJOY PARTY FROM TAX PAYER MONEY. THIS SYSTEM OF CORRUPTION/ SCAM MAY BE INVESTIGATED AND RECOVERY OF HARD EARNED MONEY MAY BE RETURNED TO CONSOLIDATED FUNDS OF GOI.DINESHnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-12740552550606676882017-01-03T19:09:36.433+05:302017-01-03T19:09:36.433+05:30Dear raman Agarwal,
Dont think all are fools. We w...Dear raman Agarwal,<br />Dont think all are fools. We want to change the corrupt officer system. That is why PBOR to be promoted to officer who know the pain of a PBOR. As an officer, you cant be de-promoted to PBOR to know the pain at minus 35 degrees at 3 km altitude. So promote those who already knew the pain inorder to change the systemAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-1677025140428725102016-09-29T17:06:16.419+05:302016-09-29T17:06:16.419+05:30Still there are so many disparity like creation of...Still there are so many disparity like creation of school & colleges to educate JCOs/NCOs/OR. Example, there was a school for Soldiers of Army ie known as Army Clerks Training School, Aurangabad (Maharashtra) but now as a welfare measure that Soldiers/NCOs training institution was destroyed recently and new Officers Training Academy Established at Gaya. Is it justice in the field of education ?. There are several rules who are saying that if a combatant clerk retired/released from service and re-employed as LDC or junior clerk in civil department, his pay will be fixed considering number of qualifying year of service rendered as Sepoy, and above equivalent ranks in Navy & AF, ie Airmen, Sailor (clerk) from cadre to cadre and their initial pay in the post of LDCs/Junior Clerks may be fixed at a higher stage in the scale above the minimun equal to the number of completed years of service as combatant clerks and pay in such case will be fixed at time scale and after considering Fundamental Rule 27, Min of Finance, GoI OM No F6(8)/EIII/63 dt 11 Apr 63, The orders are existing but if our Ex-servicemen clerks are re-employed by GoI his pay is being re-fixed as 5800-1900/- which is clearly un-justice. A JCO/NCO on re-employment in Government sector as civilian is drawing pay very less which should be stopped immediately. Even para 16 of CCS (Fixation of Pay of Re-employed pensioners order 1986) is not being implemented which is saying that service rendered as combatant clerks shall be treated as equivalent to service as LDC/Junior Clerks respectively in civil posts irrespective of the pay drawn in those posts in the Armed forces. The initial pay in such cases shall be fixed in the time scale of the re-employed posts at a stage equivalent to the stage that would have been reached by putting in the civil posts in the armed forces. The pay so fixed will not be restricted to the pre-retirement pay. Fixation of pay in these cases shall be done by invoking the provisions of fundamental rule 27. This rule is also not being implemented by GoI the reason not known. I agree with the article written but there is a need to strengthen the educational standard for NCOs/JCOs at National Academy Level. A NCO if not promoted he should be given ACP up to (POR) personnel officer rank (Lt/Capt) level and not for only Naik/Havildar only and (PJOR) personnel junior officer rank (JCOs) should be given ACPs for (POR) ie up to Maj/Lt Col level if not promoted as per time factor established for (POR) personnel officer rank. Retirement before attaining the age of 55, should be re-employed as per status and their last basic pay should not ignored while fixing the pay in civil pay cadre to cadre. I hope, the GoI will care on such points. saahibshukla@rediffmail.comAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-47559027958309379402016-09-17T02:32:37.513+05:302016-09-17T02:32:37.513+05:30Jai Hind Sir, THank youJai Hind Sir, THank youMananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11041469709298589344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-61322939960503570422016-09-17T02:32:18.689+05:302016-09-17T02:32:18.689+05:30thank you sirthank you sirMananhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11041469709298589344noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-87434604049577825212016-04-24T21:24:01.325+05:302016-04-24T21:24:01.325+05:30The man is slaves of time. It is universal truth t...The man is slaves of time. It is universal truth that every thing will be decayed in life circle. Indian were slaves of Britishers about 200 years but when they tired with slavery then so many revolution have taken place and Britishers compelled to leave India but unfortunately there rules/laws (which were made for black Indian soldiers to rule by the gore ) still in vogue. There is a limit of elasticity every thing/nature. I think since a long time that a revolution will seriously come in Indian Army if these gore made rules are not changed to minimize the gaps of top to bottom. So there is a need by the Govt of India to steady all the facts of Indian Armed Forces by the independent committee and based on the result should take action immediately<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06795063009619773125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-84464084466084040272016-04-24T21:23:54.706+05:302016-04-24T21:23:54.706+05:30The man is slaves of time. It is universal truth t...The man is slaves of time. It is universal truth that every thing will be decayed in life circle. Indian were slaves of Britishers about 200 years but when they tired with slavery then so many revolution have taken place and Britishers compelled to leave India but unfortunately there rules/laws (which were made for black Indian soldiers to rule by the gore ) still in vogue. There is a limit of elasticity every thing/nature. I think since a long time that a revolution will seriously come in Indian Army if these gore made rules are not changed to minimize the gaps of top to bottom. So there is a need by the Govt of India to steady all the facts of Indian Armed Forces by the independent committee and based on the result should take action immediately<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06795063009619773125noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-48272103688234030382016-02-07T19:32:22.113+05:302016-02-07T19:32:22.113+05:30The truth in this article is half written. The unk...The truth in this article is half written. The unknown is ocean. Toilets for officer's and jawans are different. Accommodation is worst in most stations for jawan cadre. Working conditions and timings are totally mismanaged. In the name of fauj every worst rule is implemented. <br /><br />My recent travel to three Armed force bases have really startled me. <br />In one of the bases, I have seen jawans deployed on either side of a badminton court and golf court to pick up the cock and balls. <br />In another training base in south, I have seen trainees cleaning cars of officers at CSD canteen. <br />The third base incident really shook me where a jawan's 3 yr old son rushed to an officers toilet at an auditorium where a new movie was being played and jawans was called and humiliated before many for not teaching his son where he was supposed to urinate. I somehow have no hope of the prevailing situations, but expect small relief in certain illogical rules. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-57378727298952945382016-01-18T22:16:16.167+05:302016-01-18T22:16:16.167+05:30British have left us. We are now totally an Indepe...British have left us. We are now totally an Independent country, but we are still following the same age old British mentality and laws. We know that a copier's brain can not be compared with that person, who invented that machines. So, why not to move forward with our own set of rules? Suppression and oppression have no place in a democratic country. Soldiers are also citizens of this country. Why our leaders forget that the soldier's morals must be kept as high as possible for the country's safety and security? Divide and rule policy is just playing with the safety and security of the country. The good politicians and the bureaucrats must step in to give the soldiers their long dues. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-70661722085432233462016-01-02T02:33:04.531+05:302016-01-02T02:33:04.531+05:30Ex PMO Manan Bhatt is possibly failure case for ge...Ex PMO Manan Bhatt is possibly failure case for getting commission and now become a disgruntled ex servicemen. Modi is not going to do anything but such posts will spoil officer men relations for sure. GavinVM is also hijacked so no idea if Pakistanis are behind all this? There is nothing but officer bashing in this post by a disgruntled ex servicemen.pkpkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00021649331275188893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-10390747714572751352016-01-02T02:31:42.842+05:302016-01-02T02:31:42.842+05:30Ex PMO Manan Bhatt is possibly failure case for ge...Ex PMO Manan Bhatt is possibly failure case for getting commission and now become a disgruntled ex servicemen. Modi is not going to do anything but such posts will spoil officer men relations for sure. GavinVM is also hijacked so no idea if Pakistanis are behind all this? There is nothing but officer bashing in this post by a disgruntled ex servicemen.pkpkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00021649331275188893noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-25640334785716985512016-01-01T15:07:58.623+05:302016-01-01T15:07:58.623+05:30Sure we require better pay and service conditions ...Sure we require better pay and service conditions for other then the officers cadre and the justice system should be in synch with the modern times.<br />But this time timing is dangerous.<br />Thanks to politicians and babus who again have succeeded in divide and rule.<br />Sahana Rhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14058081551014375580noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-84890645598936098792016-01-01T00:59:32.806+05:302016-01-01T00:59:32.806+05:30100 percent real picture of our armed force. This ...100 percent real picture of our armed force. This contents must be presented physically to our honourable prime minister by taking time by PMO.because I don't think that PM will see this real picture of armed forces.<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00636699343776256693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-2783132738750486102016-01-01T00:03:02.900+05:302016-01-01T00:03:02.900+05:30'SAILORS & DOGS ARE NOT ALLOWED INSIDE'...'SAILORS & DOGS ARE NOT ALLOWED INSIDE' - Very very disgusting.. equalizing a sailors life to Dogs. Unimaginable it is happening in a democratic country which is 65 years old. Who is to be blamed for this deplorable condition, definitely not civilian babus. The need of hour is 'Indianize' the Indian Armed Force by giving job dignity to native Indians the Jawan Community. It is possible only if all JCOs/NCOs/OR come under one umbrella, it is a sizeable vote bank for political party. Rajannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-49445682407849732702015-12-30T21:04:32.467+05:302015-12-30T21:04:32.467+05:30I think our approach to the Honorable PM like this...I think our approach to the Honorable PM like this indicates that we forgot that we still disciplined soldiers should have been avoided. At least I point out that letters written to the PM are not on behalf of the entire exserviceman of PBOR.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-26662073974598131772015-12-30T20:40:15.108+05:302015-12-30T20:40:15.108+05:30The contents in the posts are 100% correct and sug...The contents in the posts are 100% correct and suggestons are genuine. Will the govt ready to make things good by changing s(laves)epoy life useful and jco (team leader of slaves) life meaningful. There is unwritten reservation policy in recruitment of commissioned officers, that is filling vacancies from kin of officers and if vacancies still exists then from outsider and for statistical report purposes 1 or 2 from ranks.<br />Oh God! Save this country from the clutches of these extra ordinary people who think they and they are capable people in india to lead the slaves.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-43113452371211826372015-12-30T20:28:58.420+05:302015-12-30T20:28:58.420+05:30Officers must always be kept happy. Otherwise the...Officers must always be kept happy. Otherwise the earth will<br />start rotating towards the opposite direction.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-86925041076690620602015-12-30T20:02:05.009+05:302015-12-30T20:02:05.009+05:30A known fact to all serving/retired JCOs/NCOs/OR &...A known fact to all serving/retired JCOs/NCOs/OR & equivalents of Indian Armed Forces. Thanks for the author<br />to put the real facts in 'black & white'.<br />Rajannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-82365509623879851482015-12-30T19:47:16.815+05:302015-12-30T19:47:16.815+05:30Wonderful article, a bold writing . The facts are ...Wonderful article, a bold writing . The facts are told in the article. We need a change in our system. <br />s.Kanthiah.<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-78783955041820564892015-12-30T18:26:42.886+05:302015-12-30T18:26:42.886+05:30Very strange they are criticizing officer cadre n ...Very strange they are criticizing officer cadre n at the same time they want more jawans to become officers. by criticizing own seniors they are strengthening the hands of babu's,IAS lobby will be very to play device n rule.Today they are criticizing officers tomorrow ORs will do the same thing to JCOs then think of discipline in the fauj.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02747697926239324802noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-20414157165897494832015-12-30T18:25:48.473+05:302015-12-30T18:25:48.473+05:30 Dear Prime Minister Narindera Modi Ji please go... Dear Prime Minister Narindera Modi Ji please go through the matter.Indian Army is working still under the rule and regulation provided by the British Govt.The Army officers behavior is like as British officer.The above memorandum is bitter truth.Thank You. <br />H/Capt Babu Ramhttp://captainbaburam.gmailnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-49148313625403571812015-12-30T18:00:25.986+05:302015-12-30T18:00:25.986+05:30Indian Defence Forces is working as of British e...Indian Defence Forces is working as of British era.all rules and must be changed.who will do it.This post is 100% correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-49069277182707368842015-12-30T16:38:26.896+05:302015-12-30T16:38:26.896+05:30nothing like that dear this is twenty first centur...nothing like that dear this is twenty first century. no one like our commissioned officers in such behavour.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14932375882302585145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-74350031431623831772015-12-30T16:21:32.149+05:302015-12-30T16:21:32.149+05:30right presentation of PBOR status,picture and appr...right presentation of PBOR status,picture and approach.these spirited PBOR should be graced nd cared by daring leadership of indiaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10846101973160705384noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-60714387278634527552015-12-30T16:17:44.405+05:302015-12-30T16:17:44.405+05:30Very nice. Jai HindVery nice. Jai HindAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14174658729467967725noreply@blogger.com