tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post5423342620027587405..comments2024-03-05T22:14:08.004+05:30Comments on EX-SERVICEMEN WELFARE: O R O P : OUT OF HAND?GaviniVNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10714898741094006636noreply@blogger.comBlogger13125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-32345824199995762862015-11-27T11:16:25.536+05:302015-11-27T11:16:25.536+05:30Some vetrans(Officers) are trying to become like M...Some vetrans(Officers) are trying to become like Mr Kejriwal CM of Delhi, therefore all vetrans(Jocs/OR) are advised not to play in the hand of these cheaters. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-87700932525989876992015-11-20T15:33:27.848+05:302015-11-20T15:33:27.848+05:30Well said Manikandan,the entire episode of OROP is...Well said Manikandan,the entire episode of OROP issue can be back tracked which in reality converges on the same point of time which you brought out in your comment.Despite the fact the men in uniform-I mean who were in a position to raise their voice against the ruling thick headed people,they did not strike when the iron was hot.The so called our protectors were mere spectators all the while for all the wrong doings of the successive govts.relating to defense veterans. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-56530625809916299892015-11-16T18:02:46.310+05:302015-11-16T18:02:46.310+05:30There is no point in continuing with the agitation...There is no point in continuing with the agitation since PM has reiterated that all issues on OROP can be referred to the Judicial Commission for settlement. We should trust him.H.Lt KN NAIRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01914553938061777339noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-59829100354413265072015-11-16T14:26:01.236+05:302015-11-16T14:26:01.236+05:30Sticking to their own philosophy by either part wi...Sticking to their own philosophy by either part will only aggravate the issue but do not get resolved. <br />Why such rigidity on either side.<br />Please sit discuss and resolve.<br />No unilateral decision making please.<br />Faith and trust is fading away.<br />Prospectively will create disgruntled feeling perhaps. <br />Request Serving and Retd. Generals should take committed approach unitedly and help resolving the issue immediately. <br />Least it is going to have serious repurcussions in the coming future.<br />Regards Major p j rao Retd. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15434213898426093124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-15882623298016702712015-11-16T14:18:34.749+05:302015-11-16T14:18:34.749+05:30Unilateral decision do not give good results.
Govt...Unilateral decision do not give good results.<br />Govt should kindly spare time, sit with serving reps and veterans reps and understand each other amicably and find a win win formula to resolve OROP <br />Issue. Regards Major p j rao Retd. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15434213898426093124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-87481844757661832462015-11-15T10:07:15.353+05:302015-11-15T10:07:15.353+05:30"......Cariappa, Manekshaw, Pereira and Arjan..."......Cariappa, Manekshaw, Pereira and Arjan Singh… ." JM is perhaps the result of Cariappa's acceptance of a reduction of pay for Defence servicemen way back in 1948. This much adulated first Indian General failed to stand up for the men he commanded when a reduction of pay was retrospectively recommended inspite of opposition from the Dy PM Shri Vallabhai Patel and against all common sense. The IAS or IPS did not agree to this. The downhill slide of the prestige of Defence Forces started with this. Least said abt Manackshaw is best. A great military commander, whose name will go down in Military History, he could not get his own Field Marshal's pension till he was on his death bed is a telling commentary on his inability to wrestle with civilian masters for his own rights. Pereira and Arjan Singh outstanding professionals they were but nowhere upto the machinations of civilian masters. They all accepted OROP for themselves which did not percolate down below. Very poor show by all these worthies as far as moral courage to stand up for the pay & privileges of the men they commanded. The 'civvy street' also knows this but then it is not in their interest to remember the soldier when it comes to paying hard cash. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05332917386791065783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-87290989286573543672015-11-15T09:35:31.948+05:302015-11-15T09:35:31.948+05:30The present Govt has handled the situation in the ...The present Govt has handled the situation in the most inept manner. First mistake was appointing Arun Jaitley as Finance Minister & Defence Minister who does not know either the F of Finance or D of Defence. This worthy told a group of veteran reps ay back in June last year that the OROP promise was an election jumla. Secondly Parikkar ji said in Feb this year "the file will leave my office by 17th Feb and I will talk with the FM and get it approved by 24th Feb. There are many such ineptitude which has resulted in the present imbroglio. Very easily had the PM called Gen Satbir to his office in June 2015 and told him, "Gen. pls stop all these and go home, I will do what best can be done for the fauji" all problems would have ended there. That also the PM did not do. Giving all tall talks and implementing nothing. Many times it was assured arrears will be given from April 2014. Why shifting by 3 months to July 2014? Is this not petty mindedness by the Govt? All through the period there was no inkling if this PMR issue. Suddenly it come from the blues on 5th Sep. Most inept handling of a simple issue by this Govt. Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05332917386791065783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-80819483029326846032015-11-15T09:20:33.905+05:302015-11-15T09:20:33.905+05:30Anonymous sir, pls don't confuse OROP with Cir...Anonymous sir, pls don't confuse OROP with Circular 547 & 548. They r 2 different issues. Defence officers hv no say in issue of cr.547 or 548.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05332917386791065783noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-7370965543407014242015-11-14T15:10:53.306+05:302015-11-14T15:10:53.306+05:30Yes, you are right, each and every developments ar...Yes, you are right, each and every developments are being monitored by JCOs/OR equivalents. Let it be at JM, print media or national TV/blogs etc.<br /> Let the proposed pension table be out, we will come to know who benefits<br /> most by this agitation either the segment governed by 'colour service' or<br /> 'retirement'. It is going to be a course correction for JCOs/OR whether they<br /> should be piggy back on an association being headed by an officer or stand on their own association to fight for their legitimate requirement. The<br />wait is not too far.Rajannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-8904843873521509932015-11-14T12:38:19.615+05:302015-11-14T12:38:19.615+05:30They (Officers) have again cheated us (JCOs/OR) on...They (Officers) have again cheated us (JCOs/OR) on orop and as per notification 548 all Offrs vetrans have already received arrears 2 to 3 lakh and as per notificaion 547 other ranks are waiting to get 3 to 4 thousands.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-66466314447505767502015-11-14T07:00:45.728+05:302015-11-14T07:00:45.728+05:30Sir, very sorry for the poor soldier,god alone kno...Sir, very sorry for the poor soldier,god alone know where the country is heading for.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15759136329787578565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-63527150842614802015-11-14T02:06:56.654+05:302015-11-14T02:06:56.654+05:30Gen Satbir you have done what any one has so far f...Gen Satbir you have done what any one has so far failed to do. The message has been sent to the politicians and the current administration. Give them time to work things out. Even if the current vets do not benefit at least the future generations will benefit. <br /><br />Your health is more important so please let us chill out a bit.Abehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07332442017995554184noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-564410372716175222015-11-13T21:28:43.962+05:302015-11-13T21:28:43.962+05:30Def Min announced on September 05, 2015 the implem...Def Min announced on September 05, 2015 the implementation of OROP. It took over two months for the formal letter to be issued. Why are tables approved by Govt not issued with the letter. Are they still being tweaked based on the current agitation. A very incompetent administration set up in MOD. Def Min has good intention but unfortunately he uses the wrong words in his speech at the wrong time. Abehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07332442017995554184noreply@blogger.com