tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post7030285123949203188..comments2024-03-05T22:14:08.004+05:30Comments on EX-SERVICEMEN WELFARE: GOVT DOWNGRADES RANKS OF DEFENCE OFFICERS - CIVIL - MILITARY RIFT MAY WIDEN - By Rahul SinghGaviniVNhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10714898741094006636noreply@blogger.comBlogger10125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-77149906654695917452016-11-18T11:19:42.386+05:302016-11-18T11:19:42.386+05:30Literally feeling ashamed of not only the babus bu...Literally feeling ashamed of not only the babus but of our representatives who are silent on such incidents.akkihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01423920392239897865noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-46506124973653836112016-10-29T15:15:42.096+05:302016-10-29T15:15:42.096+05:30As per equivalency of rank between Army and civili...As per equivalency of rank between Army and civilian officers, the responsibility of posts are considered irrespective of grade pay as higher grades pay are assigned to Defence Forces on account of their tough duties. Defence Services are not classified as Gazetted GP A, Gazetted GP B, Non Gazetted GP B, Non Gazetted GP C but classified as Class 1, Class II, Class III and Class IV and similarly civilians Posts also not classified as Class I,II,III &IV.The Posts of CIVILIAN Gazetted officer of Gp. B and above are equivalent to Commissioned officers. For Example Delhi Police Assistant Commissioner of Police having Three crowns is recruited as Group B Gazetted Officer in Grade PAY 4800/- through UPSC. Similarly other Civilian Group B Gazetted Officers inclusive of Section Officer,Income Tax Officer,Custom Suprintendent,Astt. Director etc bearing Grade Pay 4800.The Organisation of M.E.S also include Gp. B Gazetted Officer as Assistant Engineer in Grade Pay 4600/- whereas Sub. Major in M.E.S having Grade Pay 4800/- perform the duty of Junior Engineer under Civilian Asst. Engineer as Post of SUB.Major is equal to civilian GP B Non - Gazetted officer. There should be no disput between Army and civilian officers on basis of pay but defines on the basis of their roll.Brigadier/Air Cmde/Cmde is the post of Junior Administrative Grade(Selection Grade) equal to the civilian Post of DIG/Principal Director/Additional CDA/Sr. Deputy AG but below one step to Jt. Secretary/Police IG/CDA/Accountant General/Commissioner of income tax or post graded as Sr. Administrative Grade. From - RAKESH SANGWAN, LAOAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09662628066018700821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-50109940770202437972016-10-28T19:48:33.569+05:302016-10-28T19:48:33.569+05:30Mr parrikar and Mr Modi downgrading arms forces fu...Mr parrikar and Mr Modi downgrading arms forces functional at par civil is unfortunate and further demorlising means your intension towards arms forces is completly different as you pretents. Could change your entire political goal in coming days.555https://www.blogger.com/profile/14048563267726858373noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-77403595523306638912016-10-25T19:50:31.608+05:302016-10-25T19:50:31.608+05:30Guess its time to leave the service and do whateve...Guess its time to leave the service and do whatever.... Open a pan shop on the road. At least one will have more piece if mind. This govt has destroyed the enter essence of being a service manS Prakashnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-10662139173562634982016-10-25T18:31:15.468+05:302016-10-25T18:31:15.468+05:30Well done By the government For The Army. The Gove...Well done By the government For The Army. The Government's agencies in others hands appreciate the Army,sSacrifice. The appreciate it In National disastrous consequences of national and international level.On other Side down graded to the civil Counter part. The Part Of Government is closing eyes and ears deliberately sign Such orders. The are going behind the control of patience Of Army. The reason why people are not coming to join the Army.about10000postofficers are vacant and About One Lakhs PBOR Are forced to take retirement.One Day No one will have Interest too join the army.OP Ojhahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12106367088519561228noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-7349797617503398582016-10-25T16:32:52.076+05:302016-10-25T16:32:52.076+05:30The President/ The Supreme Commander does not make...The President/ The Supreme Commander does not make appointment to group B posts.All the parchments/appointments of defence officers/group A are signed by the President himself who is the only and ultimate authority in the matter. Legally no authority below him can decide civil military parity which is a long pending issue due to absence of which the issue of Saurabh Kalia's could not be taken taken to International tribunal. Hence any such order by any lower authority is bad in law and is clearly challengeable before the court.Fortunately, the opportunity has presented itself in the form of this letter. All that it takes is only a single officer to take the matter to the highest court as writ petition and sort out the matter for ever.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-4010390808964453742016-10-25T14:25:51.754+05:302016-10-25T14:25:51.754+05:30Such things are bound to happen if we continue acc...Such things are bound to happen if we continue accepting and are scared to put up points stroñgly to concerned too notch.<br />Lt Clo R C SHARMAhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09100011568906875003noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-55271955668720541622016-10-25T14:09:03.871+05:302016-10-25T14:09:03.871+05:30As long as the political decisions are made by the...As long as the political decisions are made by the bureaucrats, the status of the Armed Forces personnel will get diluted. Our recent counter to Pakistan's misadventures were considered a win for the top bureaucrat and the politicians who ordered it and not for the executioners. For the mistakes of the politicians banning the Pakistani artists, a film maker wants to compensate the martyr's sacrifices, and this got the encouragement by a CM of a state government. The top echelons in the military setup must wake up to reality instead of counting their post retirement benefits. Where has the chivalry of the Generals gone.Manoharhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04398056746166406979noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-6932926671630077672016-10-25T13:05:24.580+05:302016-10-25T13:05:24.580+05:30Why does mily allow back stabbing time and again.B...Why does mily allow back stabbing time and again.Be active ,vigilant and initiate activity and actions to prevent such untenable ,illegitimate actions( so named back stabbing) by low level and all grades of section officers and secretaries of low grade - all and sundry on be half of Govt.<br />What is the position of mily heads in Govt??.They are also in Govt and from Govt<br />They have to assert on such issues and cannot remain passive and wake up after years when it is too late to act to rectify and resolve.<br />This is where mily machine with its heads at all levels should act to check this gradual down gradation.balahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08915831413555890997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8660791779547883173.post-56327161112718458152016-10-25T12:23:45.785+05:302016-10-25T12:23:45.785+05:30Good. If we issue admin orders, if issued, with ou...Good. If we issue admin orders, if issued, with out due thought, the result is obvious.<br />Now if capt is gp B then by implication the SM is UDC (sr adm asst) and down the line a soldier is below MTS or a contract worker out of govt str. Great. Pay shall accordingly be fixed.<br />Pl stop creating such rifts among rank str of armed forces by selective leaks of discussion papers. <br />Yes the two sides are in discussion and in attempt for supremacy such things, though in bad taste, may be said.<br />Beaurocracy, as citizens of India, also shall refrain from putting such issues, a wrong intr, on paper (if the purported letter is written) Better discuss in camera Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02265465571843712340noreply@blogger.com