Wednesday, June 11, 2014

THE OROP CHART PREPARED BY SERVICE HEAD QUARTERS & HELD UP BY BABUS

(Source- Voice of pensioners blog) 

79 comments:

  1. Weldone : Ex-servicemen happy on this long awaited announcement .

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    1. Let us wait till it comes in black and white and where is group x and group y chart what makes the implication to decide by MOD because there is a difference between the babujis working under ceiling fan and technicians working in hot sun and cold then only it is well done and happy on the long awaited announcement.

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  2. This seems and excellent OROP chart for Sepoy to Havildhar. They are the most neglected people in our defence system and the most hardworking people. This should bring happiness to them. God Bless

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    1. yes there you are. None is there to look after sepoy to havildar. when work is to be done they will remember us. Once it is done jco s and officers will take the credits as if they have done then they wouldn't say that they got it done. when credits come they become worker when task comes they pretend they are supervisors and officers which will turned down and get divine punishment through their generations.

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    1. sorry you have dialed the wrong number. where is he please?

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  4. wait for the real payments , as per me slight changes may happen , for the rank of sq ldr may get hike .
    let hope for the best .

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    1. right exactly you said it sir. Not only slight change but also huge because sergeants and sqn leaders of IAF are the major sufferer whenever pay commission,tasks,promotions and credits come from the top because we are sandwich ranks.

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  5. is that the net pension or basic pay

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    1. No sir this is only basic pay and Da will be added % as on today.

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    2. basic pay only. wait for group x and group y chart.

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    3. None is there to look after sepoy to havildar. when work is to be done they will remember us. Once it is done jco s and officers will take the credits as if they have done then they wouldn't say that they got it done. when credits come they become worker when task comes they pretend they are supervisors and officers which will turned down and get divine punishment through their generations.

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  6. at present there is difference of Rs 680/- in H/Lt and H/Capt pension i.e Rs 15465/- for Lt and Rs 16145/- for Capt whereas as per above chart this difference works out to Rs 1745/- (Rs 17905 for H/Capt and Rs 16160/- for H/Lt. Why so much variation.

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  7. how much chances are there of implementation of same chart??
    if this happens we are happy and thankful to bjp gov and the credit goes to bjp gov for implementation of orop.

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    1. Bright chances. and thanks to BJP govt also. it will be implemented it should be implemented otherwise it will take hardly a minute to take over parliament.

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  8. Is this the final and accepted table or still we are in assumption mode. I want to know the true and government accepted cahrt or table & what about Air Force PBORS chart . Can anyone upload that table on net .

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    1. No. because we are already habituated with lion's share. If MODI or our babuji's says okay MOD will not . they sort out the implications and then finally come to he conclusion

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  9. Sub Rajamanickam ( Y of S) - Retd , Corps of SignalsJune 13, 2014 at 7:39 PM

    Mr. GaviniVN.! your OROP chart seems very good. Where is Group X and Group Y detailed pension Chart ?

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    1. same thing. this is babuji's chart. wait for MOD's pcda circular.

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  10. It seems that this chart is not correct / true as it did not give details of pension as per different groups. Let us wait for the fine print.

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    1. yes correct. there must be difference between non technicians and technicians as per working environments. definitely there would be.

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  11. Thanks Our Honable PM Narender Modi Ji

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    1. it is okay. giving word anyone can. but standing on it? like congress men if he is also then thanks to modiji where it goes.

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  12. thanks for pm modi ji and all ex servicemen welfare incharges

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    1. if it becomes true then only thanks will be digested.

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  13. This is full orop. Govt. has to imliment the same to same but babus are intrested in changes.

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    1. sorry your querry itself confused yourself.

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  14. Thanks NaMo, This has brought happiness in all the ranks. Earlier some chart showed OROP for Hav and below only. Now the chart/Draft Which I could see is BEST done for all (JCOs/ORs).
    Thanks, BKA Ex CPOR

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    1. Sir can u please send a copy of the table to agilepk@yahoo.com

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    2. please keep the happiness in suspense for a while till it comes in black and white.

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  15. Thanks, Modi ji laghe raho hum aapkhe saat hai - V Ravinder Rao, Ex NK

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    1. Mr. Rao. No politics in uniform. Our motherland should be in front of our eyes. Meantime if anyone cheats the motherland savers (Servicemen and Ex-servicement) leading to land in cow dung.

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  16. Please someone reply for this email. Is this the table which is being implemented.

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    1. Sorry brother. this is only proposal from service headquarters. There are many implications and calculation i.e. group x and group y and all. kindly wait for final pcda circular please.

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  17. sir thank you for your service to all ex service men. i am 17 years t.s naik my coloum was not clear please update a new one on send a copy to my mail id connectraghun@gmail.com.

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    1. please check you mail.ashokraj. cell 8903563280 IAF

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  18. Hello sir thanks but some old peoples are telling print is not coming well please upload high resolution scan 300 dpi

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  19. Is this a monthly basic pension or full monthly pension including DA

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  20. THANKS TO MODIJI AND FM AND ALL VETERANS FOR THEIR STRUGGLE IN GETTING THE OROP.

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  21. In addition to this table one more rank exists among pre 2006 retirees i.e. Hony Naib Subedar. Fate of this rank is not mentioned whether this rank shall be treated as Naib Subedar (as a long outstanding demand) or Havildar. Unless this dispute is solved there is no meaning of OROP for those who are fighting with this system especially with DESW.

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  22. At present there is difference of Rs 680/- in H/Lt and H/Capt pension i.e Rs 15465/- for Lt and Rs 16145/- for Capt whereas as per above chart this difference works out to Rs 1745/- (Rs 17905 for H/Capt and Rs 16160/- for H/Lt. Why so much variation and H/Lt having length of service 26-27 yrs are down graded to Rs 14440 instead of Rs 15465/- the present scale.lot of enhancement in scales of JCOs have been made, further there is hardly a difference between Sub Maj and H/Lt. Above anomalies needs to rectified.

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  23. At present there is difference of Rs 680/- in H/Lt and H/Capt pension i.e Rs 15465/- for Lt and Rs 16145/- for Capt whereas as per above chart this difference works out to Rs 1745/- (Rs 17905 for H/Capt and Rs 16160/- for H/Lt.A Sub Maj having 26 to 27 yrs of service scaled to Rs 15075/- whereas H/Lt with this length of service downgraded to Rs 14440/-. At present Nb Sub and Sub having 26/28 yrs of service respectively drawing Rs 10970/- and Rs 11970/- respectively, whereas in this draft Nb Sub & Sub having the same length of service scaled to Rs 11735/- & Rs 15015/- having the difference of Rs 765/- and Rs 3145/- respectively, which seems to be incorrect. I therefore, request you for reconsideration while fixing the scales of H/Lt and H/Capt because these two ranks were denied their exact entitlement of 6th CPC wef 01 Jul 2009 while the all ranks of huge Army were given the arrears of their entitlements. Looking for the correct justification in connection with anomalies of H/Lt and H/Capt.Thanks for taking pain for the ex-servicemen.

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  24. Please any one can send this email. Is this the table which is being implemented. on e-mail prem.prakash777@gmail.com

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  25. Kindly confirm is it basic pansion or not

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  26. It is the table that all the neglected sepoys to havaldars expected from the honourable super PM Shri Modi ji it will boost up the morale of defence pbor thanks to lord and modi ji

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  27. I am an Ex-PO from Indian Navy I was retired on 31 Jul 1999. Please if any good man can explain me about my pension after 01-04-2014 OROP. Thanks

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  28. Dear All

    Please do not believe any body and any politicians as all are for vote bank only . In India it is happening such as All Bureaucrats along with escorts are permitted to visit abroad for medical treatment at Government expenses for that lot of money is with Government, for simple OROP for brave soldiers, who is guarding our Nation in Day and Night, there is no money it is totally sadism by the Government. Our main enemy is Bureaucrat/IDAS/IAS Lobby/Mafia/Dogs only.

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  29. MOST IMMEDIATE
    The table must be include group pay of the pensioner who was hold the rank in the past service. Otherwise there is no valu of his group was hold by him in the past service. The pensioner will not be degraded his group pay by making the table. This tabe also so much difference with the latest pensioners. Then how can I believe this is the original OROP. Therefore I request you to include the group pay in the table of the pensioner and also rectify the gap between the old and latest pensioner before finalize the table.
    Immediate action may please be taken to include the group pay./////
    thanks.////

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  30. where is the letter of this table

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  31. As per 6th pay Commission, basic Pay of Commissioned officer Lieut/Captain was Rs 8250/Rs 10200 PM respectively. Whereas the basic pension of Hony Commissioned Lt/Capt was fixed Rs 10500/10850 pm. As per draft of OROP pension of Hony Lt/Capt has been fixed for Rs 16160/Rs 17905 pm, where as commissioned Officer Lt/Capt is Rs 25000/- pm or more on retirement after 28 years of service. Why so difference. Basic Pension of Hony Lt/Capt was much in the 6th pay commission. Hence their pension should be much than commissioned officer ie Lt/Capt. or equivalent. One line has also been mentioned in the draft of OROP letter that all hony officers Lt/Capt will get pension equivalent to commissioned officer, than what is the meaning of reflecting Rs 16160/- for Hony Lt and Rs 17905 for Hony Capt in pension table effecting wef 01 april 2014..

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  32. The delay in implementation and parity with civ indicates their mentality. When havoc is created on border or by nature why def is alerted. Atleast 30 pc seats should be reserved in both houses of parliament so that they can themselves project their problems.

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  33. sir, iam a re tired sub maj of 24and half service of 2005 after reirement i havebeen awarded h/lt but no financial benifit . is thereis any proposal for any financial benefit in one rank one pay implimantation.

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    1. Being a sub major you must know the complete details of your record offices, whom you should approach for, if you are like this how about others under you. really i dont want to say anything further more. contact your record office for further details and actions.

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  34. Till 6th CPC pension of Armed Force personnel was fixed taking maximum of pay scale as notional pay to fix pension for 33 yrs of service allowing 5 yrs of service weightage.Now also this principle should be followed for both pre and post 2006 retirees and be taken as guidance for future also. Then there would not be any problem as far as OROP is concerned.

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  35. IN THIS CHART THERE IS NO ANY GROUP LIKE X & Y ,BUT NOW DAYS DM & IESA ,THIS CHART WILL AS PER X &Y GROUP. MAY BE THIS CHART WILL BE CHANGED THAN THAT WILL NOT GOOD FOR Y GROUP.

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  36. Sir, have you any latest information regarding implementation of OROP.

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  37. Sir, Can be any hope/wait or forget OROP.

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  38. Honorary Naib Subedar Vijai Kumar
    Dudi Bhawan Jawaharnagar, Rly Stn ke samne,
    Mandi Adampur
    District- Hisar (Haryana) - 125052
    E-mail: vijaidudi1962@gmail.com
    Mobile No - 09871081782, 09416283566

    Respected Sir,

    1. I, No 2879637W Havildar & Honorary Naib Subedar Vijai Kumar have served in the Indian Army (The Rajputana Rifles) for 24 years & 02 days in Group 'Y' with an Exemplary Character (from 30/10/1982 to 31/10/2006) and retired on 31 October 2006 (A/N).

    2. My last basic pay was Rs 4700/- plus DP Rs 2400/- & classification pay Rs 100/-.

    3. Records – Records The RAJPUTANA RIFLES, Delhi Cantt – 110010.

    4. Pension Payment Order details issued on till date to me is as under:-

    a. Original PPO No - S/029763/2006(ARMY) issued on 30/06/2006.

    b. Corrigendum PPOs -

    aa. S/COR/032767/2006(ARMY) dated 21/11/2006.
    ab. S/CORR/023552/2007(ARMY) dated 25/05/2007.
    ac. S/CORR/161493/2009(ARMY) dated 31/07/2009.
    ad. S/CORR/225039/2010(ARMY) dated 02/04/2010.
    ae. S/CORR/039335/2010(ARMY) dated 19/10/2010.
    af. S/CORR/273046/2011(ARMY) dated 20/03/2012.

    5. Bank details - Punjab National Bank, Mandi Adampur
    District – HISAR State – HARYANA- 125052
    A/C No – 2994001301104170

    6. My revised basic pension is Rs 7750/- fixed at average minimum pension of Naib Subedar.

    7. It is intimated that my basic pension is less as entitlement. It should be Rs 8085/- with effect from 01 January 2006 and from 01 July 2009 Rs 9382/- as per table No – 32 of PCDA (P) Allahabad dated 30 September 2011, in this connection please see the following references:-

    a. GOI MOD letter 1(8)/2008-D (Pen/Policy) dated 12 June 2009
    promulgated that Honorary rank of Naib Subedar granted to Havildar
    will be notionally considered as a promotion to the higher grade of
    Naib Subedar and benefit of fitment in the pay band and the higher
    grade pay will be allowed notionally for the purpose of fixation of
    pension only.

    b. GOI MOD vide their letter 17(4)/08(2)/D(Pen/Policy) dated 18
    August 2010 had promulgated that the pension of post 01 Jan 2006
    retirees will not be lesser than the pre- 01 Jan 2006 veterans for the
    corresponding rank/group and qualifying service.

    c. Pension of post 01 Jan 2006 retirees Naib Subedar need to be
    protected by the pension applicable to pre Jan 2006 retirees vide
    PCDA (P) Circular 471 dated 30 September 2011.

    8. In view of the above, you are requested to direct/instruct to the the concern authority for do the needful for correction or revise the service pension as entitlement. An early action is requested. I shall be highly obliged.

    Thanking you with warm regards,

    Yours faithfully,

    Havildar & Honorary Naib Subedar Vijai Kumar

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    1. Dear, Hav & Hony Nb Sub Vijai Kumar, please forward your above details to PCDA(Pension) Allahabad under intimation to your records.

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    2. Dear,Havildar & Honorary Naib Subedar Vijai Kumar , please forward above details to PCDA(Pension) Allahabad under intimation to your Records.

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  39. This is not a real chart. Maker of this chart have already told that this was not accepted by government . So dont be happy by calculating through this chart. Next chart will be prepared x / y groupwise base year 2013 . There wil be lot lees basic as shown against this chart

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  40. All ranks granted honorary ranks from Naiks to Nb Sub , have been paid the pension of the rank except Subadars granted hony rank of Sub Major(Less Re 1/- or equal amount) . Request to look into this matter and elucidate the anomaly in the 7th CPC report for implementation.

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  41. Sir, Have you any idea regarding issue of Notification of OROP.

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  42. Sir, have you approved table of pension?

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  43. The above table is(ANNA WANDE RIOURIAN MUR MUR APNIYE NU) prepared by Maj (Retd) SK jain and Sqn Ldr(Retd) Charnjit Singh) only for the officer by the officer and to the officer. pension of Lt prescribed in the table is 16715 QS 10 year and 25060 for QS 26 years and in case of major 22546 for QS 10year and and 33295 for QS 27 year. In case of Ors/Jcos there is no change in pension according to the service length such as a Nb/sub pension starts from 11635 QS 15 year and it remain same up to the QS of 26 year.That is called one Rank one Pension for the PBOR.

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  44. In my opinion the chart is not correct due to the following facts:-
    (a) Te pension of PBORs vary in accordance with length of service.
    (b) At present there are two groups and the pension variation is around Rs 700 per month. It is not in the chart.

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  45. what is the groups x,y,z means can any one explains it and also the a & b to h

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  46. What a joke with Armed Forces Personnel

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  47. My dear, previously Armed Forces Personnel were devided in "A" to "H" Groups.

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  48. I think pension tables of X group ranks are having more benefits comparatively to y groups.

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  49. sir my mother applied for one rank one pension.but she didn't get it.my father was a ex-servicemen.why she didnt get this?

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    1. Please confirm whether your mother is drawing family pension or not. If she is drawing family pension then she is eligible for drawing family pension under OROP orders.

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