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Tuesday, August 2, 2016
NOTIFICATION ISSUED BY THE JUDICIAL COMMITTEE ON OROP : 02 AUG 16
Sir,notification do not contain any terms of reference on equalisation of OROP every year/every 5 years.without this judicial commission 's recommendation shall be nil and voids.
The points passed on by MOD to the Committee DO NOT REFLECT REAL ANOMALIES OR THE REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY ESM! This once again proves the treachery of the Babus. Why should MOD act as a screen between ESM and Justice Reddy? We are entitled to a direct access to him. All representations should be handed over to the Committee without any alteration/deletion. Brig S Sreeramulu
GREAT COMMITTEES AND GREAT EXPERTS What is the logic? A pay commission is always headed by a Retired Supreme Court Judge. There was only one rational minded judge amongst the judges who headed such committees who did a great justice for ex-servicemen. Yes, he was Honorable Judge.Mr.Rathinavel Pandian.His historical and land mark recommendation could not be counter questioned. Otherwise ,according to me, the perception of a Judge about a jawan, active or retired is nothing but a security guard, posed at his door steps, to give security to him and his family. The doubts/points on which clarification sought are only for officers. What is this OROP? GOD ONLY KNOWS. Please allow me to quote an Example. Let us assume Pre 2006 defence retirees, 2 persons- A and B were recruited on the same day in the same branch, same group-in Indian Navy a)Person-A- (MCPO-I -X group, 15 years - pension service ) retired- His basic pension will be, say Rs. X X X X b)Person-B- (MCPO-I- X group, 20 years - pension service )- retired- Will his basic pension also will be Rs.X X X X OR Rs. X X X X +Y Y Is it right to grant them same pension (OROP). Does it sound logical? renganathsri51@gmail.com
Justice L.Narasimha Rreddy,who can not the correction of dates of visit what justise he can delever to Anomalies of EX-Servivemen(Example dATE SHOWN AT AHEMDABAD 3.08.2016) WITH REGARDS.
It is a good step but T.O.R is not in conformation with GOI notification letter dated 07/11/2015 more over table 7 of orop circular is not given due weightage where 95% of pbor is affected....
Dear veterans Again a classic example of complete censure by MOD of all the anamolies represented by esm There is no mention of equalisation,debunching of increments for higher QS , reducing gap of pension between x and y group and worst of all I.e. junior rank getting higher pension than senior rank withhigher QS In case of pbors pension of NK with 15 yrs QS in gp x is 8355 whereas pension of a HAV with 21 yrs QS in Y go is 7795 How ridiculous???Is is orop? Points referred by MOD are mostly for offrs not a single anamolies is referred by MOD for pbors except MACP which also finally be censured by MOD Pbors can very well present to omjc for MACP as all offrs are promoted to Lt col in 13 yrs I.e. pay band 4 where as pbors don't reach to pay band 2 even after 24 yrs of QS .therefore as per 6 th CPC all the hav and equivalent with 21 yrs QS must be given pension of Nb sub otherwise what is point of MACP when most of pbors are recruited and discharged in pay band 1 only even after 24 yrs of QS (circular 555) Omjc may not look into other anamolies but the case of MACP must be taken very effectively by pbors across the country b,cos pbors have to present themselves for MACP inclusion in circular 555 So all the pbors pl ensure ur personal appearance before omjc in your city and take up ur case of MACP as per 6th CPC Other anamolies may not be heard by omjc as they are not referred by MOD With rgds
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
Honorable/ PM/RM/FM
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
With Due respect and humble submission' I want say to lay down few lines for your Necessary kind Great consideration and 'After that for order 'implement ion please.
1-We have seen read & Feels in connection of Above cited subjected 'Govt ' had issued Order for Implementation of De-linking of 33 years of For central Govt Employees & their Pensioners' Who retired Up-to 31-Dec-2005 .Circular C-149 Dated 06-04-2016 regarding case of Civil-Defense had already been Issued in month of April-2016 by CDA(P) Allahabad and has paid some month ago. In same case & comparison yet CIRCULAR NOT To ISSUED BY MoD' For further payments of Arrears.
2- The Govt has decided Implement ion of '7th Central Pay commission and 7 month arrears to be paid along with Salary of Aug-2016. Many Major department has already issued Notification by(Dept)for further Payment and same have Implemented for same' But in case of Ex-Defense pensioners/ Employees yet not to been issued Notification By MoD & same would not be Implemented right now' Which are showing de-gradation and controversial with Armed Forces and their Pensioners..
In view of above column-1 -What is reason' Circular had issued to For Defense / civil and to Implemented and In same Manner for to' Defense Pensioner not been issue yet' Circular 'Does not means' its a Double slandered of Govt ?.
Anyway ' Our India is Great ' Where we are going'' Govt is doing the activities against Armed' Forces and there Pensioners for Only too' too' Demoralization and Degradation in comparison of Civil counter part. KYA HOGA IS DESH KA' JAHAN ARMED FORCES KE SATH BHI DIMANGI TOUR PE TOURCHER KIYA JA RAHA HAI' YEH BHI MODI JI KE SARKAR MEN' YEH UMMID TO HI NAHI . VERY SERIOUS MATTER JAI HIND. Show less
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
Honorable/ PM/RM/FM
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
With Due respect and humble submission' I want say to lay down few lines for your Necessary kind Great consideration and 'After that for order 'implement ion please.
1-We have seen read & Feels in connection of Above cited subjected 'Govt ' had issued Order for Implementation of De-linking of 33 years of For central Govt Employees & their Pensioners' Who retired Up-to 31-Dec-2005 .Circular C-149 Dated 06-04-2016 regarding case of Civil-Defense had already been Issued in month of April-2016 by CDA(P) Allahabad and has paid some month ago. In same case & comparison yet CIRCULAR NOT To ISSUED BY MoD' For further payments of Arrears.
2- The Govt has decided Implement ion of '7th Central Pay commission and 7 month arrears to be paid along with Salary of Aug-2016. Many Major department has already issued Notification by(Dept)for further Payment and same have Implemented for same' But in case of Ex-Defense pensioners/ Employees yet not to been issued Notification By MoD & same would not be Implemented right now' Which are showing de-gradation and controversial with Armed Forces and their Pensioners..
In view of above column-1 -What is reason' Circular had issued to For Defense / civil and to Implemented and In same Manner for to' Defense Pensioner not been issue yet' Circular 'Does not means' its a Double slandered of Govt ?.
Anyway ' Our India is Great ' Where we are going'' Govt is doing the activities against Armed' Forces and there Pensioners for Only too' too' Demoralization and Degradation in comparison of Civil counter part. KYA HOGA IS DESH KA' JAHAN ARMED FORCES KE SATH BHI DIMANGI TOUR PE TOURCHER KIYA JA RAHA HAI' YEH BHI MODI JI KE SARKAR MEN' YEH UMMID TO HI NAHI . VERY SERIOUS MATTER JAI HIND. Show less
It is clear now that PBORs will be taken for task without any natural justice and will get a raw deal as compared to civilians because there is no one to represent their cause and will be held in high esteem at India Gate only after one sacrifice ones life, otherwise live to get the boot.
A VERY GOOD MOVE. GOOD OPPORTUNITY TO ALL EXPERTISE AND ALL ASSOCIATIONS. Like indian medicines, bit delay but will definitely will prove worth.
ReplyDeleteWait and see vips will get everything asper their demand
DeleteFailed to understand. The language, only, is appreciated. The content?
ReplyDeleteSir,notification do not contain any terms of reference on equalisation of OROP every year/every 5 years.without this judicial commission 's recommendation shall be nil and voids.
ReplyDeleteMr.Ragbir Singh,it is nothing but a pre planned game by Jaitley and Modi
DeleteThe points passed on by MOD to the Committee DO NOT REFLECT REAL ANOMALIES OR THE REPRESENTATIONS MADE BY ESM!
ReplyDeleteThis once again proves the treachery of the Babus.
Why should MOD act as a screen between ESM and Justice Reddy? We are entitled to a direct access to him. All representations should be handed over to the Committee without any alteration/deletion.
Brig S Sreeramulu
where will the Judicial Commitee be held at Delhi?
ReplyDeleteGREAT COMMITTEES AND GREAT EXPERTS
DeleteWhat is the logic? A pay commission is always headed by a Retired Supreme Court Judge. There was only one rational minded judge amongst the judges who headed such committees who did a great justice for ex-servicemen. Yes, he was Honorable Judge.Mr.Rathinavel Pandian.His historical and land mark recommendation could not be counter questioned.
Otherwise ,according to me, the perception of a Judge about a jawan, active or retired is nothing but a security guard, posed at his door steps, to give security to him and his family.
The doubts/points on which clarification sought are only for officers.
What is this OROP? GOD ONLY KNOWS.
Please allow me to quote an Example.
Let us assume Pre 2006 defence retirees,
2 persons- A and B were recruited on the same day in the same branch, same group-in Indian Navy
a)Person-A- (MCPO-I -X group, 15 years - pension service ) retired-
His basic pension will be, say Rs. X X X X
b)Person-B- (MCPO-I- X group, 20 years - pension service )- retired-
Will his basic pension also will be Rs.X X X X
OR
Rs. X X X X +Y Y
Is it right to grant them same pension (OROP).
Does it sound logical?
renganathsri51@gmail.com
Justice L.Narasimha Rreddy,who can not the correction of dates of visit what justise he can delever to Anomalies of EX-Servivemen(Example dATE SHOWN AT AHEMDABAD 3.08.2016) WITH REGARDS.
ReplyDeleteIt is a good step but T.O.R is not in conformation with GOI notification letter dated 07/11/2015 more over table 7 of orop circular is not given due weightage where 95% of pbor is affected....
ReplyDeleteDear veterans
ReplyDeleteAgain a classic example of complete censure by MOD of all the anamolies represented by esm
There is no mention of equalisation,debunching of increments for higher QS , reducing gap of pension between x and y group and worst of all I.e. junior rank getting higher pension than senior rank withhigher QS
In case of pbors pension of NK with 15 yrs QS in gp x is 8355 whereas pension of a HAV with 21 yrs QS in Y go is 7795
How ridiculous???Is is orop?
Points referred by MOD are mostly for offrs not a single anamolies is referred by MOD for pbors except MACP which also finally be censured by MOD
Pbors can very well present to omjc for MACP as all offrs are promoted to Lt col in 13 yrs I.e. pay band 4 where as pbors don't reach to pay band 2 even after 24 yrs of QS .therefore as per 6 th CPC all the hav and equivalent with 21 yrs QS must be given pension of Nb sub otherwise what is point of MACP when most of pbors are recruited and discharged in pay band 1 only even after 24 yrs of QS (circular 555)
Omjc may not look into other anamolies but the case of MACP must be taken very effectively by pbors across the country b,cos pbors have to present themselves for MACP inclusion in circular 555
So all the pbors pl ensure ur personal appearance before omjc in your city and take up ur case of MACP as per 6th CPC
Other anamolies may not be heard by omjc as they are not referred by MOD
With rgds
Ganshyam Upadhyay10 hours ago - Shared publicly
ReplyDeleteHonorable/ PM/RM/FM
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
Honorable/ PM/RM/FM
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
With Due respect and humble submission' I want say to lay down few lines for your Necessary kind Great consideration and 'After that for order 'implement ion please.
1-We have seen read & Feels in connection of Above cited subjected 'Govt ' had issued Order for Implementation of De-linking of 33 years of For central Govt Employees & their Pensioners' Who retired Up-to 31-Dec-2005 .Circular C-149 Dated 06-04-2016 regarding case of Civil-Defense had already been Issued in month of April-2016 by CDA(P) Allahabad and has paid some month ago. In same case & comparison yet CIRCULAR NOT To ISSUED BY MoD' For further payments of Arrears.
2- The Govt has decided Implement ion of '7th Central Pay commission and 7 month arrears to be paid along with Salary of Aug-2016. Many Major department has already issued Notification by(Dept)for further Payment and same have Implemented for same' But in case of Ex-Defense pensioners/ Employees yet not to been issued Notification By MoD & same would not be Implemented right now' Which are showing de-gradation and controversial with Armed Forces and their Pensioners..
In view of above column-1 -What is reason' Circular had issued to For Defense / civil and to Implemented and In same Manner for to' Defense Pensioner not been issue yet' Circular 'Does not means' its a Double slandered of Govt ?.
Anyway ' Our India is Great ' Where we are going'' Govt is doing the activities against Armed' Forces and there Pensioners for Only too' too' Demoralization and Degradation in comparison of Civil counter part. KYA HOGA IS DESH KA' JAHAN ARMED FORCES KE SATH BHI DIMANGI TOUR PE TOURCHER KIYA JA RAHA HAI' YEH BHI MODI JI KE SARKAR MEN' YEH UMMID TO HI NAHI . VERY SERIOUS MATTER JAI HIND.
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Ganshyam Upadhyay10 hours ago - Shared publicly
ReplyDeleteHonorable/ PM/RM/FM
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
Honorable/ PM/RM/FM
Subject- 1- Due- Arrears of De-linking 33 years of Services only three Armed Forces Pensioners' Order of Apex Court yet not been Implemented.
With Due respect and humble submission' I want say to lay down few lines for your Necessary kind Great consideration and 'After that for order 'implement ion please.
1-We have seen read & Feels in connection of Above cited subjected 'Govt ' had issued Order for Implementation of De-linking of 33 years of For central Govt Employees & their Pensioners' Who retired Up-to 31-Dec-2005 .Circular C-149 Dated 06-04-2016 regarding case of Civil-Defense had already been Issued in month of April-2016 by CDA(P) Allahabad and has paid some month ago. In same case & comparison yet CIRCULAR NOT To ISSUED BY MoD' For further payments of Arrears.
2- The Govt has decided Implement ion of '7th Central Pay commission and 7 month arrears to be paid along with Salary of Aug-2016. Many Major department has already issued Notification by(Dept)for further Payment and same have Implemented for same' But in case of Ex-Defense pensioners/ Employees yet not to been issued Notification By MoD & same would not be Implemented right now' Which are showing de-gradation and controversial with Armed Forces and their Pensioners..
In view of above column-1 -What is reason' Circular had issued to For Defense / civil and to Implemented and In same Manner for to' Defense Pensioner not been issue yet' Circular 'Does not means' its a Double slandered of Govt ?.
Anyway ' Our India is Great ' Where we are going'' Govt is doing the activities against Armed' Forces and there Pensioners for Only too' too' Demoralization and Degradation in comparison of Civil counter part. KYA HOGA IS DESH KA' JAHAN ARMED FORCES KE SATH BHI DIMANGI TOUR PE TOURCHER KIYA JA RAHA HAI' YEH BHI MODI JI KE SARKAR MEN' YEH UMMID TO HI NAHI . VERY SERIOUS MATTER JAI HIND.
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ReplyDeleteIt is clear now that PBORs will be taken for task without any natural justice and will get a raw deal as compared to civilians because there is no one to represent their cause and will be held in high esteem at India Gate only after one sacrifice ones life, otherwise live to get the boot.
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