Tuesday, April 7, 2015

FLASH FLASH FLASH OROP NEWS

06 Apr 2015
Dear Veterans,
Jai Hind.

The OROP file has been cleared by Ministry of Finance and is now with PM.
There is NO DILUTION of the Definition of OROP as announced twice in the Lok Sabha.


However, the X and Y Group pensions, of JCOs and OR will be different, as always, and not same as expected by some Veterans.

Cheer UP.
(SOURCE- VIA E-MAIL BY Wg Cdr  A B Bhushan ( Retd) 04027805146 : 9848048651)

64 comments:

  1. Sir,Is it true that the same SOP observed for all cases that when any file is cleared by MOF then it will have approval of PMO. Let us wait for best Thanks for update .

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  2. Let us wait for the X and Y Group approved Pension Chart.

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  3. Can anyone throw some light on the date the PM received the file?

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  4. This is good news for veterans, but the shape of pension table is unknown. How much different will be there between X and Y groups.

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  5. Very Good News although case is delayed beyond expectations. Very much thanks for this good news.

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  6. Orop for officers and one group one pension for pbor like x and y group. Why this happen because ram ram japana paraya mal apana. Nam sepoy ka liya and divided sepoy two three part. Like three part of body. Jai hind

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  7. AT last the FILE has moved cheeeeeers.

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  8. Finally the govt has realized our value of sacrifices. May God bless our govt. We won the war to establish our dignity. It is great! It is great It is great to be CHEERED!

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  10. Dear sir

    I do not know X and Y group mantra, can anybody clarify sanctity of OROP definition stands good or further divisions among JCOs and OR deviating from the principle of OROP, in case of officers there is only one group in the implementation. now we stand divided very pathetic and disgraceful, let us see the final impact of the OROP

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    1. X and y group are different entity by nature of their qualification and work profile

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    2. U r 100% right

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    3. if there is division of X and Y groups in OROP then there is dilution of OROP as per the definition originally agreed by the Govt. It is not understood how MOD agreed to proposed differently for two groups. Again it shows that plight of PBOR is used only giving examples but when it comes to real benefits every one thinks one's own interest

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  11. Thanks for the updates.OROP Credit goes to great Modiji

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  12. OROP ONLY FOR OFFIECR

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    1. नहिँ शहाब, येतो अपकेलिये भी, jco/nco केलिए भी । हाँ ईससे सच बोलेतो जो मुल रूपसे X ओर Y ग्रुप थे ना उनको कोइ प्रॉफिट है या लस है। प्रफीट तो ऊनको हुआ जो ग्रुप C,D,E,F,G&H में थे।

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  13. Victor Bhatti April 8 ,2015. Thanks for good news

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  14. It is still better to hold the celebrations till the pension tables are published - possibly on PM's return after his overseas tour. Nevertheless a good step closer with good credit to DM Mr Parrikar for taming the babus although difficult to accept that Babus Ki Dum Seedhi Ho Gayi Hai Aur Aage Bhi Seedhi Rahegi.........

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    1. I agree with you sir,

      Previously also Gov. have foolished the ex-servicemen community at the time of 6PC. Wait til the end of final table declaration in details.

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  15. yes,credit for orop goes entirely to the pm and then to dm.thanks for the update

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  16. Definetly x gp deserve edge over y group. The nature of job these gp perform should speak the difference .

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  17. There is some confusion(waham/bharam) amonst JCOs/OR veterans that officers pay/pension is in one group Basically .AMC/ADC/RVC doctors have different scale and their rank starts from Capt and they also get Non Practicing Pay. Army Engrs/Sigs/EME/AAC having engineering degree from civil get Capt rank and those who get engineering while serving get Lt rank on commissioning.Similarly AF and Navy also flying pay for fighter pilots.Others officers have one scale which do not include MNS officers.So there cannot be One Pension for all officers/JCOs/OR.There will be One Rank, one service, one pay/pension in one particur Group/Branch which is not clarified by our Ex servicemen Organisations in detail.

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    1. Sri NS GILL sir i agree with you. it should be as per group.the total pay of gp x 15 yrs sgt in air force is 15500 whrer as gp y sgt is 12840 so there pension as on 01/01/2006 as per 6 cpc for orop should be 7750 and 6420 respectively. now if gp y sgt is given the pension of gp x sgt then the whole pay structure of gp y sgt is meaning less and will create a miserable anamoly.

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    2. Thanks for explaining in details. You have given some important points & as a civilian I got to know more about the rank structure.

      Thanks.

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  18. Why calculation table/details/formula are not circulate?

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    1. Dear Das babu, as per the order of RM it is be kept confidential till it is published as a notification. This is even denied through RTI. Let us wait for one more week to see the fine print.

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  19. Mohan Prasad nigh

    Mohan Prasad ji, do you know the the definition of OROP, which is accepted by government.?


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  20. Let us wait for the day when Govt Notification is issued and the amount is credited in our accounts. That would be the actual day to celebrate and say '' Cheeeeeeeeeeeers !!!! "

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  21. We should thank to our great DM Mr Manohar Parikar who has fulfilled his promised to veterans. Whatever he has done nobody can think. We can hope 100% on DM for future welfare of veterans and family pensioners of our country.

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  22. If there is still difference is pension of X and Y groups then what is the meaning of One Rank and One Pension as per the definition of Supreme Court. There should be no difference after retirement. Why these diffrences do not exist in the matter of Officers. Secondly there is same pension to the rank of Nb Sub and their equivalent since 20 years to 26 years of service according to chart displayed in June 2014, Is it proper justification with this rank although all the ranks have different as per length of service. If there is same chart, then same disparity will be continue.

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  23. Thanks for the update. As regards to the Gp X n Y... lets leave it to the experts and have faith that they decide things in the best interest of the individual.

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  24. what abt the Temp disability pension holders who have served less than 15 years of servies

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  25. This really good news for veterans. Three cheers....

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  26. SUBRATA CHAKRAVARTIApril 9, 2015 at 6:02 PM

    Thanks to all those who have worked hard for this success. Salute again. Please lage rahoo till final touch.

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  27. Mr Dhaundhyal... Till u were in service u were gtg technical allowance/pay.. aftr retirement what antity.. what qualification.. what edge... don't accelerate...Desh Seva Ki Hai.. its clear deviation... like u ppl can't understand.. beaurocrats... they just show the pft to the state chequet.. govt happy.. like u ppl r happy... balle balle..

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  28. Dear Shri Justin and Mohan Prasad ji,
    Will u pls clarify the definition of orop? Sirs, what will be the loss or damage to a gp x veteran if a gp y veteran gets same pension as of x gp. I dont think there is any financial loss in particular to x gp veterans. Keeping our egos in view, the beaurocrats were/ are playing such tricks to delay/ dilute the orop. We do not respond this much for the soldiers fundamental rights or legal rights.

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    1. Sri Somalanka Kumar Sir i m 15 yrs x gp sgt and i have no problem if my parallel gp y sgt brothers get the benefit of more pension.you just think the importance of pay structure of other groups if same pension theory is implemented.why to prefer gp x it will be better with gp y so there will be serious anamoly.more over THE DEFINATION OF OROP IS SAME PENSION TO SAME RANK WITH SAME NO OF YRS OF SERVICE IRESPECTIVE OF DATE OF RETIREMENT BUT WITHIN SAME GROUP.

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  29. Such an encouraging and moral boosting good news should have been published by the Newspapers since all the veterns do not have the internet services. wider publicity about the progress of the case through Newspapers and TV would cetainly please all the vaterans since all of them are not on internet. we fail to understand as to why the concerned ministers keep mum about such an important issue and speak volumes about other non - issues. I think they are not happy to grant orop but they have forced to. Kudos for the efforts of the all involved !!!

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  30. Civil pensioners get their rights firstly and then agitate for further settlements but here Def pensioners have started quarreling before getting OROP . It is still in Files and hope for early implementation

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  31. This is the best way to wait the result of orop by keeping the file with PM. it is says that sahaj pake so mitha hoe.

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    2. SUBRATA CHAKRAVARTIApril 12, 2015 at 2:24 PM

      Please intimate actual date of declaration and fixation table.

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  32. If officer can receive orop then why can't pbor. Hope for best. Government should approved orop without divided in group. Like officer because all are working for safty of the nation. Jai hind

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  33. Some of our veterans opine that orop should be different for group x and group y and group y should not be at par group x for orop as if gr x will loose something from their pocket. Earlier once upon a time there were five group. Later on five gp reduced to three bringing the fifth and fourth to the third. At that time third group veteran did not lose any thing from their packets when fith and fourth were brought forward to third. Further three was shortened to two as x and y similarly with only difference of group x technical pay. What justification we found forthe above modification by the govt. So what I say justified matter could be felt unjustified by some veterans and unjustified vice versa particularly when with CSD liquor quota. OROP revolutionary demand of all veterans should achieve unitedly without any divisive among ourself. But being Indian frogs we not only care for our right entitlement but extraordinarily advocate,argue, exercise care and also ensure that others behind us are not brought in par with us because we are all NAKEERANS of Thiuvilaiyadal and will not allow Dharmies to get the grace of Siva.. JAI HIND. By ExSGT. ANANDARAMAN

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    1. Well said sir, it may not be digestive to some ppl. Actually no y gp tech or clerical or else soldier in service have any objectipn when z gp was amalgamated to y. Why should we verterans feel ........!

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    2. The orop is demanded by veterans for consideration by govtn account of premature retirement at n early stage,separation from family while in service, post retirement employment problem,wards disturbed education while in service and etc etc unlike civilian counterparts. Here where group x and y differentiation comes.

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    3. Normally pension is based on last rank held as per group and maximum of pay structure is considered at the time of retirement so the group debate comes in to picture but let the matter be solved by learned persons and have faith in the system and hope for the best result in the interest of the individual.

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    4. Dear Sir, None of us should have any second thought about the good work by govt please wait & see the out come of OROP. Thereafter start infighting. Groupp -X & Group Y difference after coming out from services are not felt. The differences felt while in Service Gr-X works under open Sun Temp-ranging from -20 to 47,and group Y have the chairs & Fans overhead if lucky desert cooler/AC's & Heater. Fundamentals of the pension forgotten , Pension is not the booty but oldage packet for the hard work during the Service. Please keep pesentce & wait to see what is coming out.

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  34. Many many congratulations to team IESM for their continueous and tireless efforts..Thank to all Defence officials as well as all government authorities too.

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  35. It is really astonished to see some comments. They are happy after displaying the news that there is still different in pension as X and Y group. They should maintain
    the order of Supreme Court. They should have learnt the lesson that we have lost many things due to this division and if our mentality will be same then we will be sufferer in future also. Thanks.

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  36. Every body is knowing what means LANGAR News If the Files is with PM , it may be in pending table certainly, or otherwise it should have been sent Min of Def after approval of Min of Finance

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  37. What a coincidence, a few months back when DM informed that orop file has been sent to Ministry of Finance; the FM was out at Banglore for few days attending Air Conclave. And now when we are told that the file has been sent to PM, he is out of Delhi on trip to other countries. what about the assurance that orop notification will be out by April first week and first instalment of arrears paid by first week of May 2015. Repeated delays on the issue add to the fears and anxiety of the veterns. Persons elected to power should show the real concern by speedy action remembering the promises made before the elections.

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  38. Can anyone plz reply in army which all trades come under x group and y group?

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  39. Hi..I would want to know whether MNS officers are covered under OROP? I am asking this on my mothers behalf and many of her fellow officers in MNS

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