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Thursday, June 9, 2016
URGENT NEED FOR REFORMS IN PENSION DISBURSEMENT OF ARMED FORCES PENSIONS
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From: rsrawat1947 To: Sivasankar Vidyasagar
I think a way out needs to be seriously
debated, taking the observations given by you & others. Yes, What are DPDOs
doing? The collective effort & finances spent by these various agencies be
better spent in creating the necessary accretions in the PCDAs to do the
needful. In any case all our complaints, whether to the Ministry, Service HQs,
CPPCs etc all land up at the PCDA(P) for final resolution. No one in between ie
Records or CPPCs can take any action without the auth of PCDA(P). The buck
therefore finally stops at the PCAD(P).
Maybe it will be worthwhile to find out how
pension of some advanced countries is disbursed. We are working & thinking
hemmed by the kind of environment we have been accustomed to.
By no means TSEWA is doing a fine job &
I don't have to say so as I am very much a small part of it. Anyway let
us plough on the way it is & the way we have decided to go along. We are
getting the results. That matters.
Brig RS Rawat (retd)
Brig Rawat Sir,
You have the vast experience of dealing with more than 2 lakh defence
pensioners living in most remote areas in the state of Uttar Khand. Some of
these villages may not have electricity even today. So you are the best person
to represent their grievances. If TSEWA can arrive at some method of finding
their problems and getting them redressed nothing could be better than this. So
keep finding out how TSEWA can help ESMs and Family Pensioners of Uttar Khand.
Then that model can be replicated all over India and even in Nepal.
Sir, you need someone representing PCDA (P) Allahabad, PCDA (Navy)
Mumbai and Jt CDA (AF), Subrotopark, Delhi in every district. The best place is
to accommodate them in Zilla Sainik Welfare Office. Alternately they can be
located in Stn HQ. But unfortunately in Southern India we have very few
military stations. So to my way of thinking one DAD person be located in each
Zilla Sainik Welfare Office to receive grievances of all ESMs and Family
pensioners. It must be his responsibility to project it through e-mails to the
concerned PSAs and get suitable reply. This way DAD person in Zilla Sainik
Welfare Office will be able to render maximum service to ESMs and Family
There is no need for DPDOs and these personnel can be redistributed to Zill
Sainik Welfare Offices. This way PSAs can be coming closer to the ESMs and
Family Pensioners. Since most of ESMs and Family pensioners do go to Zilla
Sainik Welfare Offices which are generally co-located in Dist HQs and also CSD
(in military stations or where NCC units are located) all works pertaining to
ESMs can be done at one location.
My second suggestion is unless we have stake holders in the decision making
nothing is going to improve. We must pitch for having 50% ESMs and family
pensioners on contract basis for a period of five years extended by another
five years to be employed in all PSAs. PSAs must also have component of serving
soldiers who should know what awaits them when they hang their uniform. This
should not be a problem for each service to keep few serving officers, JCOs and
OR who are LMCs in these PSAs who act as bridge between Record Offices, PSAs
and Zilla Sainik Welfare Offices.
Your mail is getting good response from ESMs. Once we get better solution, I
will try to send it as a concept paper after getting it edited by you to
Ministry of Defence.
must compliment you on your excellent observations and comments on the present
situation which I can describe as Sorry State of Affairs.
are many ESM rallies held by Sub Areas and Areas. I have not seen any grievance
Fmn HQs treat Ex-Servicemen and Family pensioners as burden and they do not
have manpower to look after us. Banks blame PSAs, PSAs blame Record Offices
& Service HQs. This blame game goes on.
(Pensions) Allahabad got a dedicated SANGAM cell to generate Corr PPOs of 6th
CPCs new pension. Till today there are lakhs of defence pensioners who have not
yet been issued Corr PPOs showing pension as on Jan 2006 & 24 Sep 2012. JWO
Milan Das is getting these Corr PPOs from PSAs by lodging complaints with Min
of PPP &G. Has anyone asked PCDA(P) Allahabd why his office could not issue
Corr PPOs when all other ministries completed issue of Corr PPOs of 6th CPC
many many years back? Min of Def does not crack the whip. But if minor transgression
takes place, Min of Def does not hesitate to ask for an explanation from
Service HQ. When PSAs do not function they are not questioned.
CGDA proposed to have Central Pension Disbursing Agency (CPDA) to perform the
role of PDAs i.e. banks, Treasury Office and DPDOs. The pension will be
calculated by this agency centrally for all pensioners of three services and
pensions will be credited into individual pensioner's account held in the banks
through NEFT. Very laudable. Will it work?
only apprehension is it is OK to save about Rs 195 crores per annum being paid
to various PDAs @ Rs 65 per entry with maximum 14 entries per year per
just imagine who will do it? Will the man power, equipment and other resources
to prepare list of 24.5 lakh pensioners with PPOs of each one of them, send
pension to 24.5 lakh pension accounts every month be carried without any
additional manpower? My guess definitely is NO. I guess it will be another
white elephant with few more IDAS offrs who know very little of defence
accounts, battalions of SAOs and AOs will be sanctioned over and above their
existing strength to do this CPDA job. It is to my view spreading tentacles.
present PCDA (O) Pune can work out, generate pay slips of 42,000 officers every
month why cannot these PSAs do the job themselves instead of asking banks to
work out pensions and pension arrears? Do not these 65 DPDOs (manned by DAD
persons) calculate pensions for whom they are PDAs? Abolish all of these DPDOs
and bring them under CPDA. You will save lot of money. DPDO was a British
concept when you did not have elaborate banking system in those days. Do you
need them today?
today many re-employed officers in the period 1986 to 2005 did not get their
rank pay arrears from whom rank pay in re-employed period was deducted. It is
already11 years but PCDA (Pensions) Allahabad cannot give pension fixed for
such officers when they superannuated from service as their pension has to be
deducted to fix basic pay during re-employment by PCDA(O) Pune. PCDA(O) Pune
blames PCDA (P) Allahabad for not giving information. PCDA (P) Allahabad
pretends they do not know what the issue all about is. If PCDA (O) Pune is
really interested then cannot he send a senior IDAS officer to PCDA (P)
Allahabad to collect information like we do in Army and then carry out working
the rank pay arrears of these re-employed officers? They do not move their back
side and would not like to stir out of Pune. This is the interaction and
co-operation between two PCDAs.
want to file RTA query to seek this kind of information. But I get too busy in
replying to large number of mails I receive every day. Unfortunately we
have very few dedicated veterans like JWO Milan Das who can file RTA. TSEWA
reimburse any expenditure on filing RTS on line. By getting such information we
can shame these shameless DAD fellows.
it is lack of accountability that is bane of all ills. Someone has to crack a
whip to make these laggards to start working.
you employ some outsiders (preferably Ex-Servicemen) on contract basis in these
PSAS with clear delineation of responsibilities nothing is going to improve.
sincerely hope if JWO Milan Das continues to file 15 to 20 complaints a day
against PSAs for non-remittance of OROP arrears, then only these lazy guys will
were PCDA (P) Allahabad, I will sit in front of computer and start working on
7th CPC arrears with a simple MS Excel (being not a programmer). Once Govt’s
approval comes in a jiffy I will make tables for all ranks so that there is no
delay in remittance of 7th CPC arrears. You have to have will
to do anything.
just need data and software will do everything. We can get best software for a
price as low as Rs 50,000. Cannot PCDA (P) Allahabad spend that much money to
get software for arrears calculation if they do not have in-house IT skills to
DGIT of Army can make these softwares on various types of pensions &
arrears. He can give it free to PSAs. But who will take initiative to get these
it is a question of BC or SC or ST or Minority issue then everything will be
sorted out in no time. A number of questions will be raised in Parliament.
NHRC, SC Commision, ST Commission, Minority Commission will swing into action.
News papers and TV channels blare it as Breaking News if a minor incident
happens. But since ESMs are not consolidated vote bank, none of these
organisations do not take us seriously.
my view TSEWA should plough a lone furrow and make these softwares made
spending money for arrears of 7th CPC, 33 years rule to get
full pension abolished. I consider some money spent on these real welfare
programmes is not a waste. The 6thCPC and OROP arrears software is
getting lot of credit to TSEWA. Let us see how thing pan out in the near and