Havildars and Hav ACP-I also get financial benefit by OROP - 2018 which CGDA wants to deny

Dear Brig Kartar Singh Sir,

1.      I got few PPOs of those Havildars retired as Havildars drawing pension of Havildars in calendar year 2018. I also got Havildars ACP – I who draw pay and pension of Nb Sub and retired in calendar year 2018. I made the table comparing the pension of Pre – Jan 2016 pensioners and those retired in calendar year 2018. You can see that the Pre – 2016 pensioners draw less pension in 2018. Therefore, the argument of CGDA that pensions having been equalized on 01 Jan 2016 need not be revised by OROP – 2018 is totally illogically and absolutely false statement. This has been deliberately made by them to deny OROP – 2018.

Gain in Pension for Pre - 2016 Pensioners by OROP - 2018
Ser No	Rank & Gp - Y	QS (Yrs & Months)	Pension Sanctioned in 2018	Average Pension in 2018	Pension in OROP - 2013	Pension in Jan 2016 = OROP x 2.57	Gain Due to OROP - 2018
1	Hav	15	20,711	20,753	7,550	19,404	1,350
	Hav	15	20,795		7,550	19,404	1,350
2	Hav	15.5	21,022	21,022	7,598	19,527	1,495
3	Hav	16	21,337	21,606	7,598	19,527	2,079
	Hav	16	21,874		7,598	19,527	2,079
4	Hav	16.5	21,657	21,657	7,598	19,527	2,130
5	Hav	17	21,657	21,657	7,598	19,527	2,130
6	Hav	17.5	21,657	21,657	7,598	19,527	2,130
7	Hav	18	21,657	21,657	7,655	19,673	1,984
8	Hav	18.5	21,657	21,657	7,693	19,771	1,886
	Hav	19	21,657	21,657	7,693	19,771	1,886
9	Hav	19.5	21,657	21,657	7,693	19,771	1,886
11	Hav	20	22,507	22,403	7,795	20,033	2,370
		20	22,299	22,403	7,795	20,033	2,370
12	Hav	20.5	22,507	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
13	Hav	21	22,507	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
14	Hav	21.5	22,507	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
15	Hav	22	22,507	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
	Hav	22	21,219	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
16	Hav	22.5	22,507	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
17	Hav	23	22,507	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
	Hav	23	21,219	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
	Hav	23	21,219	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
18	Hav	23.5	22,507	22,507	7,795	20,033	2,474
19	Hav	24	22,507	22,507	7,808	20,067	2,440
20	Hav	24.5	22,507	22,507	7,808	20,067	2,440
21	Hav	25	22,507	22,773	7,808	20,067	2,706
	Hav	25	23,038	22,773	7,808	20,067	2,706
22	Hav	25.5	22,507	22,773	7,808	20,067	2,706
23	Hav	26	22,507	22,773	7,995	20,547	2,225
	Hav	26	23,038	22,773	7,995	20,547	2,225
24	Hav	26.5	22,507	22,773	7,995	20,547	2,225
25	Hav	27	22,507	22,773	7,995	20,547	2,225
26	Hav	27.5	22,507	22,773	7,995	20,547	2,225
27	Hav	28	22,507	22,773	7,995	20,547	2,225
Havildar Gets Pension of Nb Sub Pension due to MACP
1	Hav ACP - I	15	22,507	22,507	8,740	22,462	45
2	Hav ACP - I	15.5	22,507	22,507	8,740	22,462	45
3	Hav ACP - I	16	22,507	22,507	8,740	22,462	45
4	Hav ACP - I	16.5	22,550	22,550	8,740	22,462	88
5	Hav ACP - I	17	22,550	22,503	8,740	22,462	41
	Hav ACP - I	17	22,456	22,503	8,740	22,462	41
6	Hav ACP - I	17.5	22,550	22,550	8,740	22,462	88
7	Hav ACP - I	18	22,550	22,503	8,740	22,462	41
	Hav ACP - I	18	22,456	22,503	8,740	22,462	41
8	Hav ACP - I	18.5	22,550	22,550	8,740	22,462	88
9	Hav ACP - I	19	22,550	23,109	8,740	22,462	647
	Hav ACP - I	19	23,668	23,109	8,740	22,462	647
10	Hav ACP - I	19.5	22,550	22,550	8,740	22,462	88
11	Hav ACP - I	20	24,725	24,725	8,755	22,500	2,225
	Hav ACP - I	20			8,755	22,500	2,225
12	Hav ACP - I	20.5	24,725	24,725	8,755	22,500	2,225
13	Hav ACP - I	21	24,725	24,827	8,853	22,752	2,075
	Hav ACP - I	21	24,929		8,853	22,752	2,075
14	Hav ACP - I	21.5	24,725	24,725	8,934	22,960	1,765
15	Hav ACP - I	22	24,725	24,725	9,005	23,143	1,582
	Hav ACP - I	22			9,005	23,143	1,582
16	Hav ACP - I	22.5	24,725	24,725	9,338	23,999	726
17	Hav ACP - I	23	24,725	24,725	9,338	23,999	726
18	Hav ACP - I	23.5	24,725	24,725	9,338	23,999	726
19	Hav ACP - I	24	24,725	24,725	9,429	24,233	492

2.      The above tables gives every Havildar some financial benefit which CGDA wants to deny. Min of Fin (Expenditure) might be very happy to see no additional funds are required for OROP if it is abolished altogether. We have to demolish this weird argument by facts which I have been able to bring to your notice. I hope you received similar mail from me on how Sepoys, Sepoys with ACP – I, Naiks, Naiks ACP – 1 also get financial benefit by OROP – 2018.

3.   With this ammunition I provided to you, fearlessly engage your Bazooka and get justice to all retirees by getting them OROP - 2018.

Warm Regards,

Brig CS Vidyasagar (Rtd)

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IESM DELEGATION MEETING WITH RM ON 01 07 2019

On 01 Jul 19, IESM delegation met Honourable RM Sh Rajnath Singh. Following members were part of delegation.

1. Maj Gen Satbir Singh SM, Chairman IESM

2. Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM, Vice Chairman IESM

3. Wg Cdr Vinod Nebb Vr C & bar

4. Col RD Sharma

5. Cdr SS Ahuja Gen Sec IESM

6. Hony Lt K Pandey jt SEC IESM

7. Mrs Sudesh Goyat

The meeting started at 1615. Gen Satbir Singh congratulated RM for victory in elections by BJP and his taking charge of a very important Ministry. The delegation appreciated the good work done by the Govt in last 5 yrs and wished that India will grow in all fields under this Govt.

Gen Satbir Singh then explained that IESM delegation had met him on 6 Sep 2013 at his residence in which he had promised full OROP. Shri Rajnath Singhji was BJP party President in 2013.

He further explained that NDA Govt had approved OROP in 2014 but it had some anomalies. These have not been rectified so for and IESM delegation has come to meet RM with lot of expectation that Sh Rajnath Singhji as RM would definitely correct these anomalies. 

Gp Capt VK Gandhi then explained that because of fixing basic pensions of past pensioners at mean of pensions of 2013 has resulted in past soldiers getting less pension of around Rs 4500/less than a soldier retiring in 2019 and a widow is getting around Rs 2500/less. And secondly 5 year equalisation has resulted in many disadvantages to past pensioners. These are

(a) Past pensioners will get less pension for five years. 

(b) Past pensioners have not been given full reward of 7 CPC as pension of past pensioners pension as on 2013 has been multiplied with 2.57 to arrive at pension post 7 CPC whereas pension of past pensioners should have been updated to 31 Dec 2015 before multiplying with 2.57. This has resulted in financial loss to all ranks. 

(b) Advantage of removal 33 yr rule has not been passed to past pensioners. 

(c) Equalisation after five yrs will again result in basic of past pensioners being fixed at mean of 2018. Resulting in loss to them.

(d) Col & Brig tank officers were not given advantage of 2.67 multiplication factor which was given to present pensioners. This was denied on the ground that it will be given in next equalisation that is 2019. 

Gp Capt Gandhi further explained that Past pensioners are not demanding yearly increments as is being propagated by some officials.

IESM is only requesting for bridging the gap between past pensioners and present pensioners. Past pensioners will be ever thankful to NDA Govt if their pensions are fixed at par with pensioners who are retiring today. 

Gp Capt Gandhi requested that next date for hearing in HSC for our petition is 06 Aug and hoped that RM will find solutions to the anomalies for OROP. 

Gen Satbir Singh volunteered that IESM will be ready to take back 22000 medals deposited with the President of India as a mark of protest on assurance of RM that our anomalies would be rectified. 

Wg Cdr Vinod Nebb explained that he had met Honourable PM Sh Narendra Modiji in a function and had requested for war memorial for Armed Forces and for declaration of 16 Dec as victory day for INDIA. He thanked the Govt for the magnificent war memorial at India Gate and requested that 16 Dec be declared as victory day in India. 

Mrs Sudesh Goyat explained following problems of widows:

1. There is a gap of almost six months for widows to start getting their pension on demise of their husband (pensioner). Provisional Pension should start immediately and can be adjusted later but should not take more than three months. 

2. Widow of a deceased serving soldier be given a service quarter till completion of service tenure of her husband. 

3. DESW and DAV must have women members with authority who can listen to problems of widows and provide swift solutions. 

Gp Capt Gandhi then requested that unnecessary controversy has been created by Govt to discontinue IT exemption for superannuated soldiers on disability pension. 

RM explained that this is instruction has been issued by Min of Fin and not by MoD. However he will look into it. 

Honourable RM heard patiently all the issues and wanted to understand the complications. 

He assured the delegation that he will do everything to raise the morale of Armed Forces. 

He assured that he will have replies to all problems and will confirm action taken in our next meeting. 

ESM delegation thanked RM and expressed that we have come to him with lot of hope that he would definitely remove anomalies on OROP. 

Date for next meeting would be fixed soon. 

Regards 

Gp Capt VK Gandhi VSM

Vice Chairman IESM 

1 July 2019

(Source : Via e-mail from BB Ghai Veteran)