Monday, September 7, 2015

ARE ARMED FORCES VETERANS (JCOs/NCOs/ORs) CURSED AGAIN?

Dear all, 


I AM DEEPLY HURT AND IT PAINS ME TO ASK THE FOLLOWING

1.   IS THAT A CRIME TO JOIN AFs AND SERVE THE COUNTRY? 

2.   WHY ESM ARE AGAIN DENIED FULL PENSION ARREARS WEF 1.1.2006?

Kindly click the following link on MOD Order of 3.9.2015, Pension arrears wef 1.1.2006 for JCOs/NCOs and ORs (Table A- Army, B-Airforce and C- Navy).


The order says, that the PCDA(P) will issue a circular and then the Banks and DPDOs start paying arrears. 

(Civilians Pension arrears (wef 1.1.2006, wef 1.7.2009 and wef 24.2009) orders were issued on 30.7.2015 and they all already got their pension arrears in Aug 15). 

And ESM Pension arrears (wef 1.1.2006, wef 1.7.2009 and wef 24.2009) orders were issued on 3.9.2015 and they are likely to get their arrears in this month). 

Now, I wish to place the following sample Pension case of a Sgt ('Y' Gp - III) with 17.5 yrs, to be revised as per 3.9.15 order:-
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BP Revised as per   BP Revised as per   BP Revised as per    BP Now Revised MOD Order Cir.397 wef 1.1.06   Cir 430 wef 1.7.09    Cir 501 wef 24.9.12   d/d 3.9.15 (Cir under issue)
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Rs.4065/-                 Rs.5416/-                  Rs.5877/-                  Rs.4605/- wef 1.1.06.

Rs.4605/-                 Rs.6132/-             Rs.6653/-  (Worked out based on the BP now revised wef. 1.1.06, which entails subsequent revisions as the revisions done for Officers and Civilian employees, BASED ON 30.7.15 ORDERS. The figures arrived are subject to correction)
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But as per the second sentence of para 3 of above order of MOD, ................ However, where revised pension in terms of GO], MOD letter No.PC-10(1)/2009-D(Pen/Pol) dated 08.03.2010 and No. 1(13)/2012/D(Pen/Policy) dated 17.01.2013 is higher than the rate indicated in annexure attached with this letter then the same will continue to be treated as basic pension/family pension from 1.07.2009 and 24.09.2012 respectively.

That is to say, 
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BP now  to be Revised as per        BP Revised as per                 BP Revised as per               MOD Order dt 3.9.15                      Cir 430 wef 1.7.09                 Cir 501 wef 24.9.12     

Rs.4605/-                                       *Rs.5416/-                           *Rs.5877/- (remain same) 
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And the arrears for diff of Rs.4605-4065 = 540 + DA variables from 1.1.06 to 30.6.09.

As per the MOD Order of 3.9.15, para ----- 6. The provisions of this letter shall take effect from 01.01.2006 and arrears, if any, shall be allowed from 01.01.2006 up to the date where revised pension/family pension in terms of GOI, MOD letter No. PC 10(1)/2009-D (Pen/Pol) dated 08.03.2010 and No. 1(13)/2012/D (Pen/Pol) dated 17.01.2013 is paid.
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Dear Vet bros, 

The RED MARKED paras in the MOD letter d/d 3.9.15 are inserted for what purpose? ONLY TO DENY THE BENEFIT OF ARREARS TO ALL ESM.?

THIS TYPE OF CONDITION IS NOT THERE IN ORDER OF 30.7.15 (CG EMPLOYEES) AND ALSO IN THE ORDER OF MOD D/D 3.9.15 (FOR COMMISSIONED OFFICERS) 

WHO WILL TAKE UP THE CASE WITH MOD? 

DEAR ALL VETERAN BROTHERS, 

KINDLY BRING THE ABOVE ANAMOLY, URGENTLY TO THE NOTICE OF UFESM/IESM BOSSES, AT JANTAR MANTAR SO THAT THEY TAKE UP THE MATTER WITH DESW/DM/PM ETC. AND GET THE MOD ORDER MODIFIED.

I WISH I AM WRONG IN THE ABOVE CALCULATIONS.

AND WE GET CORRECT REVISION OF ENTITLED PENSIONS AND FULL ARREARS.

PLEASE, PLEASE, SOMEONE CLARIFY AND PROVE ME WRONG.

SGT GAVINI VN VETERAN
BLOGGER 


(SOURCE : AFI 02/S/08, MOD ORDER 11.11.08, CIR.397, 430 & 501, DEPT OF P&PG ORDER OF 30.7.15 AND MOD ORDER OF 3.9.15)
    


   

7 comments:

  1. The MOD orders already reached CDA(P) but the later has not yet issued circular to PDAs. No chance of getting our arrers from 01 Jan 2006 to 23 Sep 2012. This is all frutile exercise and MOD, DESW, CGDA and CDA(P) are delaying the issue for indefinite period. You will not get these arrears till the circular is issued to PDAs. This is what I tried to convince every one in my previous comments.

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  2. I think the bureaucrats r preparing the drafts & charts for the defence services after having being intoxicated particularly.The Govt & the military are both the two sides the same coin with equal & highest responsibilities/status & the bureaucrats have to work under either of them as per the situations and hence they should change their attitudes of neglecting/underestimating to either of the both. Rules, Verdicts, recommendations & meaning of words are repeatedly being altered/bifurcated by the Babus, which doesn't show a good sign in the near future. Where civilians should get less than their military counterparts, here because of Babus' wrong interpretation it is becoming just oppsite. A correction wrt arrears of pre2006 is badly required.

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  3. It is a matter of deep concerned about the defence forces, who are always being treated step motherly by the bureacracy minds despite the court orders in favour of them.

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  4. THE babus delaying issue of payment orders must be penalized both financially and by instituting adverse career reports

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  5. Unfortunately you are right in your calculations sir.

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  6. MAY BE BCZ OF THE DE LINKING OF 33 YRS OF SERVICE CLAUSE IS IN PIPELINE.....
    STILL ONE CAN PUT UP COMPLAINT ON DESW SITE OR TAKE RTI ROUTE
    THE OTHER THING IS THE ANOMALY IN THIS APPLICATION IS, WHEN THE MGP WAS REDUCED PRO RATE IT WAS FOUND THAT THE LAC PENSION IS MORE THAN CPL/SGT SO CPL/SGT PENSION IS STEPPED UP TO LAC PENSION. BUT THE WEIGHTAGE APPLIED TO LAC PENSION IS WRONG ONLY 10 YRS WEIGHTAGE IS APPLIED WHERE AS IN FACT IT IS 12 YRS WEIGHTAGE.

    so 15 yrs gp x lac calculated pension is 6445 x 25/33 =4883 where as it should be 6445 x 27/33=5273....so the lac/cpl/sgt pensions r short-fixed by rs 390....

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  7. Dear Gavini & all veterans- I read the SAI 1/S/2008 is clear about the applicability as per last pay drawn but restriction is only classification allowance 50% (Rs 226)that can only apply if rank & group held for 10 months continuously. while in the new letter only PDA not PCDA has been instructed to arrive at rate of pension to be be paid but the reference document mentioned is wrong ( as the document mentioned belong ot only Commissioned officers) pls checl para 1. of letter (there is no para 4.1 in the letter (1) while in letter (2) there is para 4.1.

    It would have been fair & simple to mention the same documents as mentioned in PCDA circular 430 for PBORs & for Commissioned Officer another letter with relevant documents

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