Latest fwd as received. ...
Just came back from a pn (presentation) given by Brig Rao DDG Pay Commission Cell.
Msg (messages) floating in Whats App or other social media are baseless.
The fact Army accepts to implement Pay Commission is given to media by Def Secy and not by RM.
RM is in favour of addressing the anomalies.
Chiefs told him that Defence forces will wait but implement it after sorting out the anomalies.
Like dt by 15 Nov
So dont expect it before 01 Jan 2017.
All newspapers clippings have been rel (released) by MoD not by Military or by RM.
REGARDS,
A Sunder Rajan
(Source:Via Gp E-mail from A Sunder Rajan Vet)
THREE CHEERS TO CHIEF OF STAFF COMMITTEE FOR TAKING TOUGH STAND. lET THE CPC REMAIN IN ABEYANCE TILL NEXT FINANCIAL YEAR FOR WANT OF SETTLEMENT OF ANOMALIES. CORRECT ME IF YOU WANT
ReplyDeleteNo? It is not correct
DeleteThe bugger should be lynched for forcing the Media to give False &
ReplyDeleteMisleading news.Also doing so in league with FM Babus,bypassing the RM.
What I feel let the commission decision be implemented at once, what the three chiefs have raised only concerning officers forgetting the principle stand first nation second men serving under you third officers own welfare, now the matter is reverse
ReplyDeletethe chiefs are the true representatives of army , they are self styled you defense minister first release the order any anomaly can be rectified by forming a judicial commission
Sir,
DeleteFor a change I differ with you. Hope you would agree a father can only be as happy as a child and vice versa. So pl don't divide, a soldier is a soldier.
When the mouth slips , the tail slips too ..
DeleteIf u are like a crumbling cookee .., even an ants can gobble you.
My hearty congragulations to the chiefs especially to ACM Raha for the brave step taken.We dont need peanuts. Let FM and his babus chew it along with cup of tea.we are with sirs.let us fight it out now. Let us NOT NEITHER SALARY NOR PENSION till the issues are sorted. We cheated for decades.let us all fight it out together.
ReplyDeleteToo much of stretching is not hood
ReplyDeleteNothing is going to flow to the bottom.there will be cold hand shake at the top .these are all unnecessary delay tactics to divert the attention
ReplyDeleteSetting wrong trend in defence forces.will u allow such attitude within force .What will u do if one junior officer does with senior offr as u are doing with DM.
ReplyDeleteAny idea .. 69 yrs of patient begging but constant slip.
Delete37 yrs of constant peaceful struggle , knocking of all doors, 02 parliamentary approvals,Supreme court verdict cum lambasting , Saffron and Congi election promish and to top it all .. more than 400 days Jantar Mantar relay hunger stike ...
You have any better example ? Refresh your memory with the Haryana Jat agitation and/or Rajasthan Gujjar rail agitation .. or the Gujrat Patel agitation.
R u a babu mole
These Babus are still playing games, giving the impression as if RM doesn't know who is doing what and why ?? RM cannot be oblivious of the games and it should not be a surprise if he is part of this game. Soldiers -- including veterans -- couldn't have got a more DISHONEST RM. Don't expect anything positive as long as the hope is on Current RM.
ReplyDeleteSOLDIERS ARE BLESSED WITH, SIMPLE MINDS AND STRAIGHT FORWARD THINKING;SIMPLE HEARTS FULL OF LOVE FOR THEIR NATION AND NATIONALS, PREPARED EVEN TO SACRIFICE THEIR LIVES WILLINGLY, WHEN NEED ARISES .ON THE CONTRARY, POLITICIANS UNFORTUNATELY HAVE COMPLEX MINDS AND CIRCULAR THINKING;ABSOLUTELY SELFISH HEARTS IN TOTAL LOVE WITH POWER/CHAIR/MONEY AT ANY COST WITH ANY MEANS.MODI SAHIB HAS LONG FORGOTTEN HIS "REWARI ADDRESS",AFTER OCCUPYING PM CHAIR; GENERAL VK SINGH TOO HAS FORGOTTEN SAME AFTER DONNING POLITICAL UNIFORM.JETLY SAHIB AND OTHER POLITICIANS WHO MATTER, TREATS THOSE TO BE JUST ELECTION JUMLAS NOT DESERVING ANY ATTENTION.HOWEVER VETRANS AND SERVING SOLDIERS CONTINUE TO REGARD MODI'S REWARI PROMISES TO RESTORE THEIR STATUS & PAY PARITY AS GOSPEL TRUTH! RAKSHA MANTRI JI MAY NOT BE MASTER OF THESE TRICKS BUT ALSO KNOWS A LITTLE BIT OF THIS ART.UNABLE TO RESOLVE 7TH CPC ANOMALIES FOR SERVICES WITH MOD/MOF/FM/PMO/PM; DESPITE REPEATED MEMORANDAMS/PRESENTATIONS/MEETINGS BY SERVICE HEADQUARTERS/SERVICE CHIEFS OVER PAST ONE YEAR,HAS NOW DIRECTED/ADVISED SERVICE CHIEFS NOT TO HOLD BACK IMPLEMENTATION OF GOVT NOTIFICATION WHICH HAS FURTHER TERRIBLY ERODED STATUS/SALARY/DIGNITY OF SERVICE PERSONNEL.HOWEVER RAKSHA MANTRI HAS KINDLY PROMISED THAT HE WOULD THEREAFTER TAKE UP ANOMALIES IN NOTIFICATION AT THE HIGHEST LEVEL(HL).HL AS WE KNOW FOR RM IS AGAIN FM/PM.SOP OF FM/PM IS TO CONSTITUTE A NEW COMMITTEE TO EXAMINE ANOMALIES AND SUBMIT REPORT IN 06 MONTHS, WHICH MAY BE EXTENDED FURTHER 06 MONTHS AT A TIME.JUSTICE REDDY COMMITTEE FOR VETERANS IS GOING AROUND THE COUNTRY FOR LAST ONE YEAR.VETERANS ARE GREATLY SATISFIED. NOW LET ANOTHER JUSTICE RANGA COMMITTEE MAY GO AROUND CANTONMENTS/SHIPYARDS/AIR STATIONS FOR ONE YEAR FOR PROLONGED SATISFACTION OF SERVICES/SERVING PERSONNEL.FOR GOVT THERE IS NO WORRY, SINCE THIS COMMITTEE BUSINESS IS NEVER CONCLUSIVE ONE AND IS TELESCOPIC IN NATURE. RECOMMENDATIONS OF ONE COMMITTEE TO BE EXAMINED BY ANOTHER...BY ANOTHER....AND SO ON.SO PROMISES MAY BE TAKEN WITH A PINCH OF SALT!WELL FRIENDS HAVE A HEART!GOVT HAS OTHER IMPORTANT BUSINESS OF THEIR OWN SURVIVAL.STATE ELECTIONS ARE AROUND THE CORNER.NEXT PARLIAMENT ELECTIONS ARE NOT VERY FAR OFF.U EMPLOY YOUR OWN WISDOM FOR WHAT NEXT.....?JAI HIND.
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ReplyDeleteMy hearty congratulations to aii the three service chief and especially ACM Arup Raha for leading the charge to get our dues and not to accept it unless the status vis a vis pay parity along with major anomalies including disability pay is addressed.
ReplyDeleteI fully agree with you,it is worth waiting rather than being humiliated with the chunks thrown at you at the whim's and fancy Of the babu's with their mischievous design. The three chiefs deserve all the credit for their guts and bold step.Go ahead we are with you
DeleteIf the Def Secy is releasing the letters about implementation of 7 CPC without the knowledge of the R M, he is trying to create a wedge between the R M and the defence forces. If it is correct he got to be fired immediately. He is creating confusion and letting down the R M whose ever behest he may be doing this, if correct, it is SHAME and disloyalty against the Nation
ReplyDeleteHow can MoD release clipping to press without knowledge of RM /Air Chief
ReplyDelete.It is a serious matter and needs press clarification.
Def Secy is fully authorised and responsible post. Who will agreed this matter is going on with out knowledge of the concern minister.
ReplyDeleteBabu's me pani just bats di... Un jitna gira huya koi be janwar nahi hoga.
ReplyDeleteDef Sec is more powerful than d RM bcoz he enjoys the blessing of Arun Jaitely. Manohar Parikar is politician and enjoys his ministership with well-knitted political nexus with Jaitely and PM. They are unaware of the fact that whole nation is aware of their dirty tricks!
ReplyDeleteHere chiefs should be careful .if govt uses delay tactics there will be unrest within forces.Govt has a problem here since they have to handle other employees also .so impasse will continue for long
ReplyDeleteWe should have patience and wait.All will be benefitted by removal of anomalies.All brothers should use decent language in comments.Officers and men are all brothers now
ReplyDeleteThe servicemen and the pensioners must await SAI 1/S/2016 and 2/S/2016 for pay and subsequent orders for Pensions. Any News that comes on 7 CPC implementation will only be a planted News and other orders by the government will be repetition of the pertinent Gazette already published.
ReplyDeleteमेरे मित्रों !
ReplyDeleteआज जो भी मामला है यह ऊंच अधिकारियों से जुड़ा है जिससे की हाय तौबा मची है ! जिसमे की किसी ने उस समय समझने और बात करने गया था जब ओआरओपी की बिसंगतियों के साथ अधिसूचना अधिसूचित किया गया उस समय तीनों त्रिपपास (चीफ़ ) कहाँ थे ! उस समय तो लग रहा था ज़िंदगी मे कभी रिटायर्ड नहीं होगे ' अपंगता ऐलीमेंट' २७००० से ५५००० हजार तक बढ़ाने का मामला शामिल है ! अपंगता पेंशन '' बीमारी के ग्रेड पर मिलती है ! बीमारी' जवान' जेसीओ 'अधिकारियों को अलग 'अलग से नहीं होती है और नहीं अपंगता अलीमेंट ' १००% से जायदा है ! अगर वही बीमारी जवान को भी है और वही बीमारी अधिकारी को भी है तो डिसेबिलिटी ऐलीमेंट दोनों का बराबर है तो फिर यह ''अपंगता पेंशन '' दोनों के बीच मे अंतर क्यो रहना चाहिए! जबकि बीमारी रैंक को देख कर तो आती नहीं ! और रैंक को देख कर आती भी है तो इसके लिए ''सर्विस पेंशन ''और समय से पहले आने वाले को '' सर्विस ऐलिमेंट'' रैंक और सेवा के आधार पर मिलता ही है.२- इसके लिए क्यो नहीं मांग की जा रही है की ''सियाचिन मे भत्ता'' कम है इस आलोक मे की कोई समकछ'' गोहाटी'' मे जाता है! क्यो नहीं जवान और जे।सी।ओ के आर्मी के अद्धिकरियों के बराबर होना चाहिए '' ठंडा ज्यादा ठंडा ' तो जवान और ज।सी।ओ को उतना ही लगता है जितना हमारे अधिकारियों को ! कोई सरकार इनके लिए ठंडा ' अर्कटिक'' से तो मंगाती नहीं है ! आज इस बात को समझने की बात है सब अपने लिए लगे है ! थोड़ा अपने स्वार्थ से ऊपर उठ कर देखो ! जब तक बड़े अधिकारी PBORS की सामस्यों को नहीं सुनेगे '' उसी तरह सरकार भी आपकी नहीं सुनेगी ! रोने से अभी कुछ नहीं होने वाला है ! जैसे नीचे के जवान रोये थोड़ा तो आप भी रोइए जनाब ! ९६७०२१००००
True govt is aware of this .couple of days before Mr.Dev gave some horrible comments while comparing officers and others .show some maturity atleast now and stop that in service language .
DeleteMr Dev officers and men are complementory to each other .nobody is asking officer and men to be paid equally but when u fight for officers u should fight for men also .had u done this why there is resentment within.
Deletewho will prevail in the end?." RM or the DEf Secretary."
ReplyDeletethis will be an indicator of who calls the shots.Let us wait and see.
Ramani
the situation and flow of information.visible contradictions.truth and transparency required.
ReplyDeleteThe stand taken by chiefs is good.
Let the matters and issues be resolved forth with .no delay and dragging matters for years and decades.no committees of babus or retd judges.only neta and soldier.
Forthwith means few days - less than a month - can be a day or two.let the heads ( across the table) take a decision and give directions / orders to mod ,mf ,def accts to implement forth with ,like they published orders for nffu and DL33yrs to civilians.
No circus and no drama / Tamasha.
Every thing - about 80 anomalies and disparities to be resolved by orders
Defense Secretary is merely doing his job for he is appointed & proving his loyalty his masters that does not include RM .
ReplyDeleteThanks to veteran Sunder Rajan for this Flash News, which puts a question mark on authenticity of earlier news in this Blog viz " 1) Statement by Air Chief Marshal Arup Raha Chairman,..." 2) "Air Chief meets Defence Minister, Armed forces to accept 7th Pay Commission salaries : By Manjeet Singh Negi" 3)"Armed forces agree to implement 7th pay commission..." 4) "Military agrees to accept new pay scales from Oct ..." etc.
ReplyDeleteVeterans as well as the serving personnel deserve to know the actual truth. Members of Armed Forces have been taken for a ride since decades. In this era of “Digital India” any misinformation may result in serious consequences, affecting national security.
Responsible agencies of the Service HQs and MOD must clarify and reveal the truth.
PM and RM should keep aside all their engagements tomorrow and take action to sack the Def Secy, who has shown the audacity to publish a false news item. Such people are dangerous to the country and may mislead the nation in precarious conditions. While addressing the anomalies the RM should take a strong stand to sanction MSP at same rates to all ranks upto Col and equivalent posted in the field and NFU to all ranks in the three wings.
ReplyDeleteFirst chiefs should show that they are for all ranks then they will get support.Govt has all the facts they can't be fooled any more .why there is difference in medical help.canteen service.ration ..both are human beings no
ReplyDeleteThe defense is a demoralized lot now and our neighbors are very well know that.
ReplyDeleteIs Brig Rao right? Please see http://bharatshakti.in/solution-to-pay-panel-issue-soon-assured-raksha-mantri-parrikar/
ReplyDeletePresently total morale s down. otherwise there s no chances of today's martyred. but still gov't support to officers only. need wake up situations.
ReplyDeleteYes you are correct.Extra ordinary facility should removed by GovT immediately.
DeleteIt is painful that our soldiers is being killed on regular intervals.Why the central Govt. keep mum. why should a soldier waits for orders from DELHI facing an enemy on boarder? 7th CPC and its implementation by MOD has demoralise the Jawans. Would Govt. Rectify the anomalies of 7th cpc and issue orders immediately for regular and retired soldier. I think there is no need of any committee to rectify the anomalies because there will be more committees will be arisen to rectify the anomalies came out of this committee and further it will not be rectify till next pay commission. The Govt. must act now on every point of view to boost up the forces by every means. If no action is taken now then wait for another attack.
ReplyDeleteI am afraid that in the near future nobody with self respect will join the forces and these foul-mouthed pot-bellied politicians, their chamchas and babus will have to stand guard along the boarders. Then only they will learn how tough is the life. Our so called netas talk a lot but do nothing. This is the curse our beloved country is having now.
ReplyDeleteThe sad thing is that the Modi govt from which the nation had great expectations, not because it was perceived to be nationalist but, bcoz, ppl were sick and tired of the corrupt UPA regime which was busy looting national wealth, demoralizing armed forces, deepening communal hatred, appeasing vote banks etc, etc ,to name a few, by co opting the ever willing CORRUPT TO THE CORE IAS BABUS, the Modi govt is following the same path, particularly appeasing the babus. Since, Modi ji was the last hope, a great disappointment particularly of the armed forces will be the fallout and it will have serious repercussions for the nation in the long run.So far, the forces had only been cheated , this time they have also been shamed by making them look like beggars (7thPC), having them (ESM) baton charged and finally having paid all govt employees except the forces, obviously at AJs behest without doubt and to appease the babus. The extent to which this govt has harmed the forces prestige and also caused divide in its ranks will not be forgotten, unless the govt course corrects, sooner than later. Time is running out, when your govt is weakened - even if u try to set things right, the very corrupt babus will not let u do it and the ESM will ensure u do not get a second chance.U BEGUN BY HOLDING periodic MEETS WITH DEF HIERARCHY and today u cant face them.If U still choose to emulate and excel Nehru in ridiculing the forces-pl rest assured, The HIMALAYAN BLUNDER will be no patch on the humiliation which will be caused to the nation, by the time u relinquish your office. Mr PM, get your act together and fast, get rid of the sycophants surrounding u and get real ppl. The, nation still loves u but some day u too will be evaluated,Even if u too have developed deep seated hatred for the FORCES like AJ, remember THE ESM who rallied behind u in your run up to power, will unite again to get rid of u. Though,sadly, the nation would have once again been pushed to the same/similar alliance misrule and it will truly be doomed.Pl look ahead and look far. When u take the right path, u will get light and power from the God and u will not need the crutches of AJs and babus. Do not waste the opportunity nation has given u-the nation may loose faith in goodness of one-which it saw in ample in you.May God give u wisdom and courage, in that order.
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